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ideas to update large kitchen ceiling wood/florescent light box

Last part of our kitchen renovation: tackling modernizing of large kitchen ceiling light box with 6 florescent tubes flooding space with light over 8’ island. Ceiling is high: 11 foot. Two outlets take care of lights, which are now about $40 each to replace. (We don’t want to get rid of it and add chandeliers at this time.)

We want to: 1) get ideas for type of new lights, how many, and placement to go inside box. 2) get ideas on what to replace 6 plastic rectangles that light goes through: always seem to darken and look tacky. Would you get clear panels, made with what? Or is there better panel that’s used for diffusion? 3) Would you add cam lights and where and what kind, or add long tube lights or other kind of lights? 4) lastly could keep box and do something else creative with it.

I’ve looked on YouTube etc and there is scant advice. Designers, can you help?

Comments (33)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Another perspective of box over 8’ island. Tropical theme home

  • 3 years ago

    I really think you should consider removing box and adding recessed can lights (you don’t need a chandelier there)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Thank you. I see there are new “can lights”‘that are flat LEDs. Would you put six over space in middle of six mini box areas?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    LED “can” light

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    IMO the biggest issue in the space take it out patch the ceiling and get some proper lighting in there POt lights can be done easily and all LEDs 4000K will give a ton more light than those crazy flourecent tubes ever did .

  • PRO
    3 years ago




    Surface mounted Drum fixture from Crate & Barrel.



  • 3 years ago

    Just take that box out and get an electrician to add recessed lighting. You will probably have some drywall work to do, but well worth it. Here are some guidelines. You want them around the perimeter cabinets so they illuminate the work surface but will want some in the center also. https://www.lampsplus.com/ideas-and-advice/kitchen-recessed-lighting-layout-and-planning/amp/

  • 3 years ago

    It's time to replace the fluorescent fixture entirely. A new flat LED panel fixture will emit a lot more light sideways, illuminating your upper cabinets and your collection up top of them. There may be a lot of patching of holes from the sturdy anchors needed to install the heavy wood fixture. A large flat LED panel fixture would cover most, if not all, of the old holes, something like below. Many shapes are available.


    eSenLite 2ft.x2ft. 4200LM LED Commercial Flat Panel Ceiling Light - White (2pcs) · More Info



  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Agreed. No design yet found

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    skylight!


  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Everyone your time and helpful creative comments are so appreciated! Looks like we now can remove box with no regrets if y’all think it looks dated. LED lights and layered approach it will be

  • 3 years ago

    Once you remove the box, consider the entire room when doing the LED recessed lights, they can be put on dimmers as well. My inside-the-cabinets cooking area is about 9’x12’. I have 9 recessed lights there plus three over the island. (I prefer them to hanging pendants.)

    Don’t be worried about too much light. The opposite is worse.

  • 3 years ago

    Here is my ceiling. The center lights are on the dimmer.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    What type of led lights did you use! Same in both areas? Simms le! Do they have trim? Where to buy? Beautiful!

  • 3 years ago

    There is nothing special on my ceiling. Just plain white recessed lights with standard dimmable LED bulbs.
    I think they’re 60 watt equivalent. Total 12.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Yes I am new to ALL of this wonderful new LED light world!!!

  • 3 years ago

    The recessed lights come with the trim.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    The trims for LED lights I looked at were ornamental in nature. Hard to find variety of them for can lights or LED thin lights.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    So with 11” ceiling would it be “too much” to put the 2 of the flush mount or pendant version of metal palm leaf light at ends of 9’ counter? And obviously get rid of box.

  • PRO
    3 years ago


  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Beverly I live your vision here! Thank you kindly

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    UShe DHome Woven Pendant Light, D15.7 Farmhouse Dome Chandelier Natural Material Hand-Woven Hanging Lamp for Dining Room Kitchen Entryway

    Based on inspiration from designer Beverly I found a light I liked in my budget: $139 sea grass pendant alamo 16”

    https://a.co/d/7ZTqmzw

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Here it is

  • 3 years ago

    Those hanging lights will add a lot of texture and pizzazz. Great suggestion.

    If you still need more lighting, just go to Home Depot for the recessed lights I used.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Yes to home Dept idea. Glad you like those. With can led lights in middle I tho k enough light? That’s are only 60 watt but somehow magic of led outputs more likens?

  • 3 years ago

    Using an LED bulb you can get a lot of light from a bulb that uses less wattage. Depending on the number, you can get a bright kitchen with 6 LEDs that give off 60 watts each, but also use a lot less energy. I think our recessed lights are 60 watts (x 9).

    Still use the cute wicker fixtures too.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    So have to listen to husband ☹️He nixed the beautiful sea grass due to problem of grease from grill top will ruin natural materials.

    So if you’re still with me on this journey. Let’s recap: I have palm tree statement chandelier over kitchen table I love: see first photo. Dark bronze metal. I have 11’ tall ceilings! I have 9’ Island with grill in middle and monster wood light box above I will remove and put new led “can” lights above grill area and around perimeter of room.

    So at ends of island I think will look good with two pendants/chandeliers no more than 12” wide. I have the 3-tier Kira round bronze 3-light (60 watt each) dimmable I like. It is beach coastal with capiz shell and ripple glass. DOES it COORDINATE with palm chandelier okay? If so will go with those.

    Also found black metal orbs with white gloves (wish were clear seeded). Neutral enough. Does it coordinate and fit space?

    Lastly playing upon crystal LS on palm chandelier is the iron crystal one. May be too hard to clean and too fancy.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    So you’re saying I could keep the light box and use an led light tube if I wanted as alternative? That’s interesting.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    You can pick up LED light tubes that fit your current fixture at Home Depot or Lowes. I traded all of mine out 5 years ago and the difference in the quality of light is amazing, and it's likely I will never need to replace a burned-out bulb in my lifetime.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Thank you Beverly.

    We are now getting bids for light box removal, drywall fix, new can lights and light installation.

  • 3 years ago

    Keep everything as simple as possible. If hubby nixed the wicker, why was he okay with the palm leaves?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    palm leaves are 8-10 feed from grill.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    10 feet from grill