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Custom cabinets or Medallion?

3 years ago


Hi - we are debating two different options: Custom cabinets designed exactly to our specifications, or Medallion from Menards to save money? What should we consider? Right now we're just thinking about cost, but is it worth the upfront investiture to go with super high quality custom? Or is a cabinet a cabinet and we should go with Medallion and save the extra $$ for a trip to Paris? 😊


And thoughts on Medallion in general would be great too.


(the pic is what it could look like with custom, small old house)

Comments (23)

  • 3 years ago

    altho you have two corners there appears to be a straighforward plan.... simple top molding...stock sizes??? as long as the columns and toe kicks and panel on the back of peninsula is to your liking I'd likely pick the medallion. no pantry w rollouts..... but you have a stock size vertical column and straightforward drawer storage. See that the base corner storage options are exactly how you desire...that spot has come along way w offerings. Medallion I think.....but note details as mentionned and I think you'll be fine. Money saved can go to countertop option and that expensive hood you'll have to pick. the aisles look funny but is it the program that compressed everything?

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I think that "custom" may or may not denote better quality. We have seen on this forum many "custom" cabinets that are terrible, and also many that are great. What I am most concerned with when I see your rendering is that the kitchen is small. That says to me that you will be better served by using frameless cabinets rather than framed. Frameless cabinets have more interior space which is important in a small kitchen where every inch counts. Typically custom shops do not do frameless cabinets, only framed.

    I would seek out a cabinet manufacturer that makes frameless cabinets, and look for "semi-custom" which is custom enough to suit almost everyone's specifications. It does not look like Medallion makes frameless cabinets, but so many do, so keep looking. Shiloh would be one to look at.

    Photos below illustrate the cabinet construction differences, with two framed pics and one frameless.

    Because your kitchen is small, I would not do double ovens and separate cooktop. You should do a range instead.

    FRAMED CABINETS "PARTIAL OVERLAY"


    FRAMED CABINETS - "FULL OVERLAY":


    FRAMELESS CABINETS:


    Meagan S thanked M Miller
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Your kitchen is too small to not have a range. You are losing too much storage, and increasing your costs by quite a bit, to go with a wall oven and cooktop. The kitchen designer who tells you that is the one to ask about another cabinet option. There are a lot of good choices out there, as long as you stay away from limited option stock cabinets. Medallion has the Silverline series, which is a good value. Available from a dealer, who will always be less than a box store anyway. With better quality design help.

    Meagan S thanked DeWayne
  • 3 years ago

    Medallion is a great brand! In a different layout.

    Meagan S thanked HU-655638150
  • 3 years ago

    provide furthur explanation because the mixer and rolling pin say "baking here" and often times the wall often is a preference...but the aisles for multiple people while you bake???? and in general a range would be the choice for your space.....and is there indeed enough storage? do you have a pantry or closet beyond the ovens for more storage? fill in the missing pieces for the random viewer

    Meagan S thanked herbflavor
  • 3 years ago

    @DeWayne I am curious about your statement that the kitchen is too small for cooktop and wall ovens?


    If the range replaces the drawer stack under the cooktop that is an even trade for storage space? If the microwave would be relocated under the countertop, also an even trade for storage space.


    Also, not sure if you have priced a good quality induction range, but separate oven and cooktop is cheaper in many cases.


    There are also functional reasons that one may prefer a wall oven. I'm not a spring chicken anymore so a wall oven is much easier for me to use and to clean. I also do not care for the gap between range and countertop which collects gunk and for older people pulling out that range for cleaning isn't a simple task. Being able to replace just the cooktop or wall oven when they fail is an economic advantage as well.


    My kitchen is larger than the one depicted here and my KD is also telling me I should choose a range...a 36" range no less. I am really stuck trying to understand the logic? Help me understand?

    Meagan S thanked Michelle
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    You lose 33" of counter space with a cooktop and range. You are not counting the cost of the cabinets to house the appliances in the extra cost either. A range doesn't need a cabinet. A cooktop and wall oven need 2, and one of them an expensive tall cabinet. You already do not have enough counter work space and storage space. If you could find another spot for the fridge, that would really help things open up and gain you more work space. Can you post a home layout, showing where the kitchen is in relationship to the other spaces?

    Meagan S thanked DeWayne
  • 3 years ago

    Thank you all for these comments - super helpful and many things I hadn't thought about. We have to keep the induction stovetop because we just bought it last year (hence no range) and also, I like the idea of the oven being counter height so I don't have to bend. And there are more cabinets that cannot be seen in this photo, so cabinet space should not be an issue. It IS a small kitchen, it WILL be tight but I am trading off people space for counter space ... since I am mostly the one who cooks. Thank you!

  • 3 years ago

    @Meagan S How do you like your induction cooktop? I am going to take the plunge and switch to induction too. Which one did you go with and what are your thoughts?


  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Let's see the surrounding space with those cabinets. Maybe the fridge can go there and get you some more room. That is just really really cramped, with a dark hole corner that will be difficult to access.

    Meagan S thanked DeWayne
  • 3 years ago

    Another thing to consider is what type of paint finish your local custom cabinet maker would use. It sounds like Medallion has a nice kiln dried catalyzed finish that won’t chip as easily. I’m in California and our state won’t allow certain hardening agents, hence why I went with out of state semi custom cabs. I was frustrated how quickly locally painted cabinets chipped in my mom’s kitchen. Less than 2 years and the high-use areas were chipping and flaking, ugh.

    Meagan S thanked elizabeth_eclectic
  • 3 years ago

    @DeWayne here's what it could look like behind what you see.


  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    @Michelle I love the new induction - however, i've already shattered it and it was an $800 fix (so we've almost bought half of it again) ... be careful getting too lazy about using it as counterspace. I wasn't prepared to love it as much as I do. Plus no fumes from gas. we went with bosch.

  • 3 years ago

    I don’t want to imply that Medallion doesn’t have a great finish, but there is no durability advantage from kiln drying a finish. It really only reduces the flat pack time and is valuable for saving space.

    A cabinetmaker with decent (not expensive) spray equipment can achieve the same durability as any manufacturer.

    Most of the Italian polyurethanes are approved for use in California and are among the most durable products on the market. So, while you might need to do a bit of work to find a quality finisher, it can be done.

    Meagan S thanked bry911
  • 3 years ago

    @Meagan S Thanks for the input! Always the danger with glass top electric or induction right? Sorry that happened to you! But you must REALLY love it if you sought to repair rather than go a different direction. I'm so tired of cleaning a gas range that cooking over a campfire even sounds appealing so I think I will love induction too.

  • 3 years ago

    My kitchen is larger than the one depicted here and my KD is also telling me I should choose a range...a 36" range no less. I am really stuck trying to understand the logic? Help me understand?

    Can you post the 2D floor plan with all measurements?

    I happen to agree with you, that if you do have the room as we age, a separate oven and cooktop is a better option.

  • 3 years ago

    I'm so tired of cleaning a gas range that cooking over a campfire even sounds appealing so I think I will love induction too.

    I switched from gas and will NEVER willingly go back. Induction is so much better in so many ways. Cleaning is just one of them.

  • 3 years ago

    @cpartist So as not to hijack this thread I will start a new one.

  • 3 years ago

    Michelle just do a search on induction and you'll get your answers. :) Lots of happy people.

  • 3 years ago

    Meagan S , have you looked around for a local cabinetmaker who makes frameless? I found mine by googling "frameless custom cabinets Ohio". His shop was about 40 miles away but his charge to bring them to me was reasonable His prices were probably comparable to & a bit less than Lowes (in 2013), and I was able to get custom widths and a custom feature or two, in order to maximize my small kitchen space (for example, he made the corner lower cabinet smaller than standard, with one side larger than the other.) He was able to use a catalyzed finish as well.

    I agree that frameless is the way to go in a small space!


  • 3 years ago

    Meagan, where are you located? I put in Amish cabinets for less than semi custom and my cabinets are true high quality.

  • 3 years ago

    I strongly suspect in that particular kitchen inset would be the best bet with frameless being second. So I might recommend one of those two.

    However, don’t let the tail wag the dog. Frameless, and often inset, can give you a little more space in drawers than other framed cabinets, but don’t discount other cabinets that meet your needs and price point for that reason alone. Like everything else, it should be a factor you consider in your decision, but I would caution against making it a requirement. It just isn’t that much space and in this particular kitchen will likely be less space than inset.