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How many pendants over the island?

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

Hello,

We are looking at getting two or three pendants for our new kitchen addition (open concept with dining area.)

We would like to get the pendant pictured here that comes in three sizes: 13.7", 17.7" and 23.6".

Our island countertop is 79.75" across. We will have corner seating to the left if you are facing the sink.

Understanding the dimension of the island and the lamps available from Vakker Lighting, should I buy three 13.7" or two 23.6"?

I prefer three but I do not want it to look too crowded.

Also, has anyone worked with Vakker Lighting before? I found 5 other companies that carry these lamps (LasSola.com, BeautifulHalo.com, ClearHalo.com, LitFad.com, BulbSquare.com) Should that be a red flag that they are mass produced and not that good?

Below are some images to help you get the picture!



Kitchen rendering.



Pangen Lamp from Vakker Lighting (has anyone used them before??)



Formica EverForm Solid Surface countertop (SeaGlass #505)



Miralis Hickory Cabinets



backsplash from Tesselle (Ipanema)





Here are the exact measurements:
Many thanks in advance for you advice and expertise!

Becky

Comments (18)

  • 3 years ago

    Love your choices. Are you sure that's hickory? Looks like walnut. Doesn't matter, it's lovely but they are very different woods. Have you seen a sample in person?

    What isn't mass produced? I think your concern for lighting is safety. Seems you're are in Canada so not sure if Underwriters Laboratories is the standard for lighting in Canada, but having a fixture that meets their standards should assure you. Are you working with a lighting store or all online? If you can, find a lighting store that carries the pendants (not a big box store) and get their thoughts on it. I have found that independent lighting stores will meet any online price for the same item.

    There are a number of pros here who can advise on the number of pendants. One of my favs is @BeverlyFLADeziner. Hope she jumps in.

    Rebecca Holt thanked tozmo1
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    This article should help.

    https://archedmanor.com/guide-to-kitchen-island-pendant-lights/


    I’d go with two larger lights. If interested (with your backsplash and counters being busy), I could see a softer finish, which will complement the cabinetry. Just a thought. Also consider the lighting effect, which is really important.




    Rebecca Holt thanked Maureen
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Less is more, do two

    Rebecca Holt thanked HALLETT & Co.
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Two of the 13.7, 2 foot wide lights are huge.

    Really like your choices, hope you post pics when it's done!

    Rebecca Holt thanked s m
  • 3 years ago

    All such great help! We have decided to drop down to using two of the 13.7". The electrician wired for three today... oh well...we were going to go with three small but with the advice here, I will confidently tell them we need it rewired for two small!


    @Maureen I appreciated the blog with calculations and the Crate and Barrel suggestions. I'm actually in NY State. What is the name of that orangey/wood toned dome from C&B that you pictured above? I can't find it on the website with a general search.


    @tozmo1 Great suggestion to buy the lamps locally--I'm guessing because there are so many online outfits selling them that I should be able to get them here!


    I'll post photos when we are done! What category do I post them, or just in this same thread?

    I'm a bit of a newbie!

    Thanks again, Becky

    PS The countertop along the wall with appliances and the pantry will have a white DEKTON called Zenith. We are only using the Formica solid surface Sea Glass for the island.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago



    Hello again, I found this lamp online at Pottery Barn and it has a nice bit of wood, white vs. bright orange bell, and it has the outline like our tile: Pottery Barn Margot Metal Pendant

    How might this look with two of them over the island? It measures 11.5".

    Thanks for your thoughts!

    Becky

  • 3 years ago

    @Rebecca Holt Continue to post progress on the same thread.

    Hard to tell how that light is going to look IRL. Not to beat a dead horse, but in a local lighting store, the staff usually have decades of experience and can look at your plans, pull out a book of lighting you never knew existed and Wow! It will be perfect.

    Rebecca Holt thanked tozmo1
  • 3 years ago

    Oh the resources you all are giving me! Our island is 79.75" or 6.5 feet. These two different pendants are 11.5" and 13.7" so we are in the ballpark for a 6-8ft long island! Yay! Also Maureen could you tell me what the pendant is that is terra cotta colored from Crate and Barrel? Many thanks, Becky

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Unfortunately when I opened, to provide you witn the link, I can’t find this color.


    https://www.crateandbarrel.com/lighting/chandeliers-pendants/1?item_group_id=312802&epik=dj0yJnU9MGtfSXc4dDJkWnNDdXIwVXJYVHV5Z3VxZ1oyeDIyVXgmcD0wJm49dy1lR1NsczU0Y0ZQdWZhZURMaGJkUSZ0PUFBQUFBR1RPUXgw

    If you like terra cotta pendants (or any color, search Pinterest and you’ll see lots of options/links. Good luck.

    Rebecca Holt thanked Maureen
  • 3 years ago

    Thanks Maureen for trying to find the link for me. I'll keep looking!

  • 3 years ago

    More questions!

    What outdoor sconce might you suggest?


    On the outside we are trying to find an outdoor light that is fitting. This is what our door will look like, three rectangular panes, but no side light but in a different color, see the orange below.



    This is the front of our house before the work began. We will replace the door with a three paned door (clear glass) above with no side light.


    This is the color of the door we will have on other side of the house -- the door in Copper Canyon Benjamin Moore.


    Would love your suggestions! We like copper but are open to other ideas!

    Thank you.

    Becky


  • 3 years ago

    @Rebecca Holt I really like the copper color too. Are you settled on the door style? The reason I ask is because the corner of the house showing the door and small people is saying Craftsman but the door is saying mid century/modern. Love the door, I have the exact one, but just wondering if it fits the style of the house overall.

    Rebecca Holt thanked tozmo1
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Given your kitchen’s MCM design, looks like you are heading that way with the door. If it were me (and haven’t already purchased the door), I’d try to better complement your home’s exterior style. Can’t recommend a light, as the allowable space and door’s hardware have to come into play and suggest getting the door installed before choosing.

    Here is a traditional door (don’t know if you want full glass), but with a great color and modern accessories it might be a good compromise.


    Note lights and how they work with the door‘s style and hardware.




    Rebecca Holt thanked Maureen
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    You don't have room on the island for 3 pendants.


    The whole pendants over the island are a bit overused IMO. Even a linear light fixture is more exciting visually.






    Rebecca Holt thanked BeverlyFLADeziner
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Thank you!

    Re: Entry door and outdoor sconce--The door is purchased.... I get why you both tozmo1 and maureen picked a door with lights in the top portion and not below. Or all glass like we have in our other door as pictured above. We did kind of go mid century for the door when the rest of the house is a Dutch Colonial.... oops. We wanted a lot of light as in the door for the other side of the house but without a screen door we wanted a bit more privacy.

    This is the outdoor light I found yesterday that I am leaning toward.



    It is more bronze than copper but I like that it echoes the rectangles. What do you think?

    I should have been clear: the door and lamp is going on this exterior. We have made a small addition, pulling the exterior wall out to meet the entry door surface to make the kitchen dining room bigger:



    Re: Island Pendant: @BeverlyFLADeziner I'm glad we didn't get three! I love those overhead lights Beverly you suggested! We actually looked at one of those and then thought it would be more dramatic than we wanted (also expensivo... ;-)

    As you see above, we bought these two pendants:



    We thought that they would not fight with the backsplash and had a bit of the same shape. How do you think this will work?

    Would love your thoughts on all...

    Becky

    PS 8-11-23: Very disappointed when they arrived that the wood is a wood accent on a metal plated top. So back to the drawing board on pendants....

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    What is the plan for the support of the overhang? A welded steel braced subtop, with open spacing? Solid surface has limited strength, and a lot of flexibility, and requires more support than stone. Very specific support. You cannot have a solid subtop.

    Rebecca Holt thanked DeWayne
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Good question @DeWayne. We found IronSupports.com that my contractor is going to put on top of the base cabinets. He hasn't picked which one but this is the link to the company: https://ironsupports.com/products/hidden-island-countertop-bracket?variant=15840871481415

    Any thoughts about this solution?

    thank you!