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Replace recessed can lights

2 years ago

We have recessed can lights in every room that we’d like to replace with led. No vaults but ceilings are 10 & 12 feet.
There seem to be two or three options but my main question is what is difference between flush and recessed as far as lighting the room is concerned?
Pics of what I have and what I’m looking at

Comments (16)

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    First what are the ceilings ?You can just rpelce the bulbs with LEDs The flush mount are often itegrated so buy extra becuse you cannot change the bulb I liek no integrated lighting when I ahve many needed so I would do recessed into the same place you have those now.As for better the LEd lights will for sure be a btter choice . I like LED 4000K for everywhere but 3500K works too . You do however need different levels of lighting in a space so floor lamps table lamps pendants all play a part in good lighting and the higher the ceiling the more imporatnt that is .

  • 2 years ago

    I really dislike the look of recessed lighting. I would go for your second picture in the top row. I love the way they look.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Unlike cat I hate the look of flush cans because the bulb is flush with the ceiling. I would replace all your current bulbs with par bulbs 3000kelvin. You will need to replace your dimmers as well. Replacing the existing bulbs with led bulbs will be cheaper and faster than switching out to flush led.

  • 2 years ago

    Before going through the expense and hassle of replacing all your cans, try using a BR30 led bulb that sits more flush with the opening. You might be totally satisfied with that. Much easier to replace bulbs down the road than integrated fixtures too.

  • 2 years ago

    Agree with TT that a bulb might do the trick. However, if you don't like that solution, I like the flush fixtures because they distribute light more widely, rather than acting like spot lights. Most people are looking for ambient light from these fixtures, and I think that means less deep.

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks to all. The ceiling is drywall, nothing special. I’m not a fan of the bare bulb look so I was looking for something a little more polished. (Came with the house, not a choice we made.) None of them need to be spot lights so distributed light would be better. Most of them already have led bulbs and dimmer from previous owner. Not all the bulbs are the same color so matching an unknown bulb is not as simple as it sounds.

  • 2 years ago

    Adding, except kitchen may need to be spot or possibly adjustable, not sure.

  • 2 years ago

    I would do color temperature adjustable smart lights in certain rooms. You certainly shouldn't be subjecting yourself to 3000k+ lighting just before bedtime. Costco online.


  • 2 years ago

    I can’t edit so sorry for multiples (this happens when using an iPad). I just learned par bulbs are narrow beam and BR are wide beam, both are like floodlights in shape. We do have other lamps; these do illuminate whole room but are not used often.

  • 2 years ago

    Couple things to bear in mind … § Be aware of “light bombs”, those glare spots that make it hard to even look at your ceiling. That is the reason for the recessed retrofit LED bulbs. We chose recessed bulb replacement when we converted to LED with our reno. No regrets! Not sure how that plays out with a vaulted ceiling. § Heed the advice about layers of light. The 6 LEDs in my living room ceiling can be rather a lot. There are occasions when we use them, but mostly we rely on lamps for task and accent light. § Put all recessed lights on dimmers. (See previous comment.) § Warm toned furnishings tend to look better with about 2700K bulbs. Cool tones tend to look better with about 3000K bulbs. Color temperature adjustable bulbs sound great to me. § With either temp (2700K and 3000K are both color temperatures), also check for a CRI (color rendering index) of something over 90. The higher the number, the better the light will show true colors of your art, furnishings, etc. § Good luck with your project.

  • 2 years ago

    Just to clarify, the replacement fixtures are not a traditional style bulb. They are integrated replacement insets that fits in your existing can, to provide the light source, the trim ring, and any recessed liner. For example: https://www.superiorlighting.com/4-inch-led-recessed-downlight-with-baffle-trim-8-watt-700-lumens-color-selectable-30k-40k-50k-120v-recessed-can-required-dimmable/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwhfipBhCqARIsAH9msblsLxObXgrNJyT72TTUezKOtpMNuXd9-XDZYqD6mYHgnAN0ySv8yoUaAnajEALw_wcB. § Also be sure to match the diameter of the replacement to the diameter of your recessed can. (They do come in multiple sizes.)

  • 2 years ago

    Very helpful, thank you. Not a vaulted ceiling just different heights in different rooms, most 10’, one area is 12’.

  • 2 years ago

    I found this prolighting web page helpful in understanding trim depth and why some have grooves in them (reduce glare/softer glow).

    https://www.prolighting.com/blog/2022/01/20/how-to-choose-led-recessed-lighting/#:~:text=Installing an LED retrofit kit,they produce way less heat.

    We’re not heavy into apps for everything so I probably won’t go with the super expensive smart light.
    Have learned a lot today. Might go for something like below although the br30 bulbs are a much better price. Maybe I’ll do some of each depending on room.

    Nora NOXTW-5632WW Onyx Tunable Retrofit Baffle Trim - 27/30/35/40/5000K, 90+CRI, 120V (White, 5/6")

    Thank you.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    There is no need to replace the fixtures.

    Just replace the bulbs in the fixtures with LEDs, however, what you have inside the can is a standard 'A' Type Bulb.



    Those should have never been installed in the cans. That was done by someone with no knowledge of how to light a room.

    Head over to the big box store and select LED PAR bulbs that will fit the size of your cans. See the dimensions below. You'll be very pleased with the outcome.






    Once you relamp these fixtures you may not have to replace a light bulb for the rest of your lift

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    As suggested above, I'd try replacing the bulbs with PAR (probably PAR30 or PAR38) bulbs. Buy the bulb whose diameter is closest to that of the fixture (i.e., that the minimizes the gap between the fixture and the bulb). Note that PAR30 bulbs (only) come in short neck and long neck sizes. I prefer 2700K color temperature bulbs for a living room or bedroom, 3000K for a hallway or bathroom, and 3500K in a kitchen. High CRI (i.e., 90+) bulbs render colors most accurately.

    You may find that even the lowest-wattage bulbs overlight a room (though 10-12 foot ceilings may make this less likely. Buy dimmable bulbs and use an LED-compatible dimmer. I've found Lutron LED+ dimmers such as the Diva to be the most compatible.

  • 2 years ago

    Absolutely the case that those old fashioned bulbs (even though they fit into the socket) are totally wrong for the lights!

    And, if you have a Batteries Plus near you, check out their lightbulb experts (and pricing). They really are well trained, can help with color, shading, and experiment with you.