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Could someone please check my pitch, run, and ceiling heights?

Owner builder here, first time. A bit out of my league perhaps. I feel like I just found a mistake with my plans (designed with and purchased from a draftsman) and I'm freaking out. Permit was just issued.


Section of house in question is 28' front to back, with a single-plane 3/12 shed roof, taller in front.


On plan: Front of house shows 19' total inside height + roof (8' ground floor, 1' floor, 10' loft upstairs) on plans. Rear of house shows 14' 6" total inside height + roof (8' ground floor, 1' floor, 5'6" upstairs at back wall / mechanical room on plans)


With a 3/12 pitch should I expect to see a 7 ' drop over the 28'? If this were accurate, both rear ceilings in question would be significantly lower which is a no go for me. Am I running this calculation correctly? A 7’ drop over 28’ from the front height of 19’ leaves 12’ total at the rear not 14' 6" as shown.


Same issue with the garage, which is also 3/12 and a 13’ 6” ceiling in front of garage and a 9’ ceiling at the rear. At 3”/ft. over 26’ = this is a 78” drop (6.5')


Someone please tell me I am wrong!


And, I'd like to pay for a second set of eyes on these plans. What do you all recommend for that?

Thank you all -




Comments (18)

  • 2 years ago

    Yes, a 3/12 pitch would be for every foot of run , you have 3" rise. So yes over 26' feet you would have a 78" rise.

    Christopher Miele thanked millworkman
  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    " And, I'd like to pay for a second set of eyes on these plans. What do you all recommend for that? "

    An architect if you can find one who will get involved now if you want a thorough review. Or an experienced GC. Your issue now is both of those are trades that either a) design a home or b) build a home and you have chosen your own route. So if they are busy you may stand zero chance of getting help unfortunately.

  • PRO
  • 2 years ago

    If the plate heights are plainly shown on the drawings, and 3/12 is shown somewhere else, I doubt a framer would bother to calculate the required plate height using the alleged roof pitch. What kind of roofing and what do you calculate roof pitch to be from the plate heights shown?

    Christopher Miele thanked Seabornman
  • 2 years ago

    Also for a house with 3/12 pitched roof you cannot use roof shingles. What is your planned roofing material?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Not according toGAF.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    You are already in permitting? You are SOL. You need to withdraw the permit, and get the design fixed, which is going to take weeks to months, because no one will want to take this on.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Get your draftsman to fix it.

  • 2 years ago

    " Not according toGAF. "


    I stand corrected Joseph. I remembered it as 3 1/2 being the minimum.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Thank you all for your input. Yes, sill plates are clearly marked at height. The draftsman corrected the issue today by simply raising the front wall, but, this will throw off my budget, all of my takeoffs, my ResCheck, interior tonnage, etc. Hence I have decided to keep the current wall heights and will install a standing seam roof at the lesser pitch. (about 2/12) I also found a local architect who agreed to work hourly to check and reproduce all drawings, hourly. (he likely agreed since my permit is already issued and I have CADD files). Since the only on-plan change is the pitch, I'm hoping that plan changes will be mild / not needed. This has been a stressful not even 24 hours! Appreciate you all for the tips this morning!

  • 2 years ago

    Here is the 'corrected' version with a 3/12. I don't like the balance of shake to clap.


    Original plans under.



  • 2 years ago

    Rear el. (first plan, shorter house)



  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Check the lowest roof pitch recommended by the metal roof supplier and/or manufacturer.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Ask your architect if they think they can design a better house for/with you. I look at your current design and all I can think of is 1972.

  • 2 years ago

    Looks very commercial to me, almost like a small office building.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I agree with Mark and MWM, looks like an office building from the '70's. Maybe take another look at the whole thing while it's still lines on paper.



  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I was going to mention the commercial look also, but I did not want to be too harsh.

  • 2 years ago

    When I was designing my house, my draftsman made the second floor windows taller than the first floor windows. I told him that was bad design because it then made the second floor top heavy. Obviously, I made him correct it and tons of other problems

    I suggest you engage a person of design talent to work with you, not a draftsman who will just spit out what you ask him to do.