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Vanity Lighting and mirror Need hivemind- please

2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago

I am remodeling our master bathroom. Yesterday was taping and prepping day- toay is DEMO DAY.

(to give a flavor for the here and now).

I will post my selections here, the tile, the vanity , the faucets.

I did have another thread (https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6425507/again-update-paint-finishing-up-need-help-with-mirror-and-vanity#28914455which) helped but I guess it derailed and what I need now is

MIRROR and LIGHTING. I am undecided if I want sconces around a mirror or a light above the mirror.

Details- roughtly 7 by 12 room.

1- White with grayish brown veining flooring in hexagon shape, 11x13, for Bathroom Floor.



2-3The shower walls are 8 x24 glossy tile, white with mostly gray but some brown and even a splash of rust (very few of those but it's a presence as you can see in the rightmost tile).



My photography skills are lacking,

I selected this vanity which I love, I will have chrome faucets throughout.


4- The faucets are Moen Belfield here is the tub filler. Chrome, transitional .


So I need to figure out lighting and mirror for the vanity.

There will be recessed light by shower area. The room is typically quite bright with 2 windows. I would like the vanity lighting to be good and not just pretty.

So if you've read this far- please- I have been looking and can't find anything that grabs me. I think I would like chrome lighting- could be sconces, could be vanity 3 or 4 light.

Vanity is 48 inches.

Everything is either on hand here or en route except for lighting and mirror.

Please suggest away (and be kind ).

I think the mirror could be black framed, but I feel

the lighting must be chrome. I will bring in some black touches to join the cabinet pulls but that 's it.

Comments (45)

  • 2 years ago

    I like Looking at Shades of Light - big selection and the website works well. I have a low frustration level. If it's not an exclusive item to them, you can sometimes find the same item for less but generally I think they are competitive. Did a very quick look and these 3 appeal to me - not really sure what you are after style wise so they are very different from each other. It's a place to start. Maybe you can say what you like or dislike about any of these and help narrow the field so you get more help. Off to look at mirrors.







    salonva thanked DLM2000-GW
  • 2 years ago

    DLM, I like all of those. I esp like how the first one seems to echo the shape of the cabinet pulls.


    Here is a simple black framed mirror that comes in multiple sizes.

    https://www.build.com/product/summary/1842682?uid=4368122





    Okay, so my pictures aren’t working to illustrate the combo in the way I’d hoped. 🧐


    salonva thanked Sueb20
  • 2 years ago

    Here's 4 - again, Shade of Light, very different so if you can identify anything you like or dislike it helps narrow the search.


    Could pick up the wood tone of the vanity - turn it sideways




    Also comes in black - you have options to play off the black vanity hardware or the silver tone light/faucets


    This also comes in black


    salonva thanked DLM2000-GW
  • 2 years ago

    Maybe if the mirror from PB works, you could use sconces with it. These are all from PB and, I think, relate to your faucet style.






    salonva thanked Sueb20
  • 2 years ago
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    Good ideas. I did search every which way and just nothing grabbed me.

    For the 3 DLM posted, I was going to say (sorry) the first one seems too modern for me.

    Also, I should mention--- that I think most of the lights look good pointing upward but I think the lighting is so much better when they point down and the look changes so that what I like pointing up, not so much pointing down.

    I do gravitate to ones similar to the second one, but I don't love it pointing down......I find the second and third ones interesting. I just can't wrap my head around what really complements the room.

    I did search with some manufacturers in a similar manner and not much.

    The mirror is a good one if I go the route of above mirror lighting; minimal frame and rounded edges.

    I might as well ask here- I did see this light which I think is so cool but I think it doesn't work with the feel of the room......but I'm so confused I can't judge anymore. It's wrong- right? too fuddyduddy or clunky even tho it's perty?



  • 2 years ago

    Sorry I apparently was typing away and missed your replies. I'm going to read them now. I wasnt ignoring them. (had to move car ).

  • 2 years ago

    I love mirror #2 that DLM shared.

    salonva thanked Sueb20
  • 2 years ago

    I like that one too, but it's too large ( and also tbh more spendy than I'd like but overall 46 inches wide is too wide.

    I will be running out now but will check back in a few hours.

    I also like some of the sconces Sue shared. Do they give decent lighting though?

  • 2 years ago
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    I might as well ask here- I did see this light which I think is so cool but I think it doesn't work with the feel of the room......but I'm so confused I can't judge anymore. It's wrong- right? too fuddyduddy or clunky even tho it's perty?

    I think it is perfectly fine but not sure what you think is "cool." I see no reason not to choose it if you like it but it is not an obvious pairing to me.

    Your vanity, which is really the only thing we have to go on as the rest is very simple IIRC, gives me slight coastal, Serena Lily vibes. The color and caning are coastal. The hardware is modern. The fixture you show is traditional school house style. Sorry if you already answered this since I think I already asked, but what is the vanity shown with?

    salonva thanked mtnrdredux_gw
  • 2 years ago
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    I think you're going to be all over the place until you decide on sconces or light bar. Since sconces eliminate shadows on faces for applying make-up and shaving, why don't you just commit to that? You have enough light for the room in general.

    Knowing how much room to allow for the sconces will determine the mirror. Most sconces are about 4-5" wide. It's recommended that sconces are placed 36-40" apart to provide the best lighting. You'll want to allow a few inches of breathing room from the sides of the mirror and from the edge of the countertop. Your electrician can advise you about where he needs to add the junction boxes. I like to draw vanity, lighting and mirror out on graph paper.

    https://www.lightsonline.com/blog/lighting-tips/the-right-way-to-light-a-bathroom-with-sconces/

    As for style for the sconces, I'll repeat that I think you should use the style of your faucets as a guide, not the pulls. I always think of bathroom faucets as masculine (chunky, linear, modern) and feminine (delicate, curvy, classic). Your faucets are feminine and your vanity has feminine elements with the cane doors, so that's the direction I'd go in.

    salonva thanked Eileen
  • 2 years ago

    This is the Moen Belfield sconce that matches your faucet. It's a bit plain but if you decide to go plain, it's a fine choice. It's not too feminine or masculine. It's nonbinary. :D



    Some photos of it in a bathroom.


    https://www.wayfair.com/lighting/pdp/moen-belfield-1-light-bath-sconce-moe9114.html

    salonva thanked Eileen
  • 2 years ago

    Ok I;m back again.

    Mtn, the only photo I've seen of the vanity was with a round mirror ( thin black frame) and NO lights. So not much help there. And thank you for putting into words the disconnect with the light fixture I stumbled on and the vanity. They don't clash but they don't really belong together.

    DLM your suggestions were great- but I think I want less of a frame with the mirrors.


    While that Sayulita mirror is very attractive and distinctive, and a great find-it does not talk to me. IT's a little bit too taste specific. I know, I 'm a tough crowd.


    Also just to clarify, when I mentioned about the lights facing up, that is only with the bar ones that go above the mirror. I am fine with the sconces.

    I have to go back to look at the ones Sue posted because they wouldn't really enlarge for me. I will browse Pottery Barn.


    Eileen- all over the place is me. Until I find something that sends me I continue going all over the place. I had several vanities that were contenders but the one I chose kept standing out to me and I'm happy with it. ( well we'll see when it gets here). I was looking for either sconce or light bar to find any that stood out. I did find the Belfiedl which I agree is ok but not great but interestingly enough it say DRY location so I can automatically scratch that off the list.


    Nicole thank you for the specific- it's very attractive , perhaps a bit too sleek for my taste but I am looking at it. Nice and simple with impact.

    I really appreciate all the suggestons and advice and welcome any more -until I find THE one.

  • 2 years ago

    ok ok ok. I had a chance to browse Pottery Barn, and I think this is what Sue was suggesting--- Mercer tube sconce dimensions 5x5.5x 11.5 h



    I think this is IT.

    Will type B 60 watt be ok ?

  • 2 years ago
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    When they say not for a wet location, they mean outdoors.

    I think the schoolhouse sconce is a little wide for a 48" vanity and for the size of the mirror. Here's a different, narrower version of a schoolhouse light you might like. It's not so typically schoolhouse as the other. It's from a lighting store that has a store in Portland near me and in Seattle. It's like a Lamps Plus store. We bought a vanity light and a chandelier from them.

    https://www.destinationlighting.com/item/schoolhouse-style-chrome-white-opal-glass-1-light-wall-sconce-destination-lighting/665095

    This is quite nice. It has a more modern shade and the stem has interest. It repeats some of the shapes in the faucet.

    https://www.destinationlighting.com/item/z-lite-cannondale-chrome-sconce/P2104530





    salonva thanked Eileen
  • 2 years ago

    othose are very pretty! Now I have to think some more. Did you see the Mercer one I poste probably at the same time as you did?



  • 2 years ago

    $55 at A-zon.

    salonva thanked Eileen
  • 2 years ago

    very enticing- but I think I like the Mercer one better. Taller and more graceful. Only thing is the cannondale one is 100 watts and the Mercer is 60..... but I mean I'm not doing surgery in there. :)


  • 2 years ago

    Do you know what wattage you had before? DId you use it full strength or dim it? You could also look in your other bathrooms ad the wattage to decide if you need/want more than 120 total.


    I am glad you are going with sconces, I like that look better

    salonva thanked mtnrdredux_gw
  • 2 years ago
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    I do like it. But is type B a candelabra bulb?

    salonva thanked Eileen
  • 2 years ago

    Yes B base is a candelabra bulb. As for the wattage mentioned above - just because a base is rated safe for 100 watts does not mean you have to use it - if 60 watts works for you go with that. They're giving you the max you can safely use because incandescent bulbs produce heat relative to their wattage. All that said.... LEDs do not produce heat so there is no issue with overheating the fixture.

    salonva thanked DLM2000-GW
  • 2 years ago

    DLM I was thinking more wattage, it would be brighter and nice to have that option, but I really like this Mercer one. I would probably go with LED just need to get straight the actual base to fit.

    Mtn, In our powder room I have 3 60 watt bulbs in an over the mirror (pointing up which is why I don't love that) . In the room we demo'd today, there were I think 6 or 8 on a bar, pretty sure they were 40 watts. It's hard for me to judge because the fixture and the bulbs are ancient and tiny. (The previous owner left extras so if any died, we used those. They are very tired looking so hard to judge.)

    ok---- I just was chatting with PB customer support. They were very helpful.

    From our chat "This is the recommended light, however you can do an LED as well. https://www.potterybarn.com/products/teardrop-60w-filament-incandescant-bulb/?_br_psugg_q=teardrop%20incandescant%2060%20watt%20light%20bulb". I asked about lighting the space and she said 2 60 watts should be really fine. She asked about size of room, vanity, ceiling height etc and was confident that this would be good. What do I know I am going to think a bit more but I think we found it. I really do like it.

    I'll hold off for a bit in case someone has some caution to add or another suggestion but I think it is the right one for me.

    Well the right 2 for me.


    So now mirror, and from what I understand (and that was a helpful link Eileen included) If the vanity is 48 inches, and sconces are each 5 wide, and they should be 4 ish inches from the mirror, it sounds like 30 inches wide is going to work. I was worried that 30 inches wide might seem skimpy but I think that's good. So now round or rectangle, and finish. I think I'm looking for very simple and a very thin frame.......


  • 2 years ago

    You'll have 9" between the side of the mirror and the edge of the counter with a 30" mirror. A 5" wide sconce will only leave you 2" between the sconce and the mirror, and if there's a wall, it will be 2" from the wall. Too tight imo. A 24" mirror is probably too narrow for the vanity. Maybe a 27" would be just right.

    You could mount sconces through a mirror from a glass shop. You will get some lighting bounce from the mirror, which may help with the low wattage of the sconces. They can bevel the edges to make it pretty.

    salonva thanked Eileen
  • 2 years ago

    Rounded rectangle

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  • 2 years ago
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    MIRROR and LIGHTING. I am undecided if I want sconces around a mirror or a light above the mirror.

    Lights on the side of the mirror are the only way to go in a master bathroom. Provides even illumination and shadow-less light for your face. LEDs on a dimmer have become my go to choice.

    salonva thanked Judi
  • 2 years ago

    While I don't care for the sconce to extend beyond the vanity, I see plenty ( in all my searches) where the sconce is at the edge or even past the vanity edge.

    24 inch wide is way too narrow. I still think 30 would work and I can look for 27 or 28.

    Here's one example on the PB website.

    https://www.potterybarn.com/products/pearson-tube-sconce/?pkey=s~Bathroom%20lighting~379

  • 2 years ago

    salonva, you are getting lots of good advice. I know it will all come together beautifully. :))

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  • 2 years ago
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    So helpful to "see" it. A picture is worth 1000 words.

    28 by 36 looks right to me over a 48 in vanity.

  • 2 years ago

    In the interest of accuracy, I stumbled on a photo of the vanity (it's actuall the vanity without a top) but a stock photo with a super large round mirror and sconces way high and too spread out. I had seen another one with just a round mirror and no sconces. I think the mirror was smaller as well. Anyway I guess they are all slipping up in the staging because most of us would say the mirror is too large and high and the spacing of the sconces is too spread out. But here it is.




  • 2 years ago

    I ordered the Mercer tube sconces :).

    Now to figure out the mirror but I am really not worried because so many can work.

  • 2 years ago

    Have you considered getting chrome or brushed nickel pulls like the ones shown in the model to match your faucets and sconces?

    salonva thanked lizbeth-gardener
  • 2 years ago

    Yes, I have considered that ( I had a previous thread too if it wasn't discussed here). It's a possibility, but I think most people thought the contrast with the black hardware was really a nice feature. I am on the fence about it, tho leaning towards leaving the black pulls and getting a thinly framed Black mirror and adding a bit more black to the room.

    The vanity is supposed to arrive tomorrow, and I feel ( maybe not wisely) that I will likely not go with a pricey mirror so if I think that needs to be changed, it shouldn't be a big deal.

    I do want to order the mirror within the next few days. They are doing rough plumbing and electric today .

  • 2 years ago

    Stay with me-- I think looking at the visual that Eileen provided- I think the mirror looks heavier than I would prefer. Contributing to the heavy is the frame. https://www.build.com/miseno-mv-taho48-15vkc/s1935512?uid=4575109#overview

    That is 28 by 36. Also wondering do you think that height is good? ( I have standard 8 foot ceilings).


    I am considering one that comes 27 by 36. Obviously I'd hang vertically.

    Do you think this is good? Does is it too plain?





    https://www.wayfair.com/decor-pillows/pdp/refine-sabine-metal-rounded-rectangle-wall-mirror-w004231213.html?piid=1295440149%2C1295440611



    or do you think a 27 or 28 inch round mirror is the way to go?

    So close and yet so far.


  • 2 years ago

    I like the Wayfair one you pictured, and yes, vertically. It's au courant and very reasonable

  • 2 years ago
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    Welcome to my world-ok this other one jumped up on my screen and does it look better? it is 28 by 36, and it says all the magic words like rust resistant and tempered glass and slightlythicker mirror.

    Maybe better sales writing. And then because I'm so nice, it offered me a $50 coupon to apply so it's clearly a sign that THIS one is it. Ordered.

    Now I just have to figure towel bars (but not right away) but I do need to figure paint because I think next week they will do that when sheetrock is up.

  • 2 years ago

    36" is a standard height so it will be fine. I wouldn't go taller. You can always mock it up with wrapping paper or newspaper.



  • 2 years ago

    Actually, I was worrying that it might be taller than I'd like but it's all good.

    Vanity comes tomorrow ( praying that it is intact and not mucked up), mirror on Saturday and sconces on Monday ..... Only the tub is not here yet but everything else (all the plumbing and tiles,is here.

  • 2 years ago

    Good luck salonva. looking forward to seeing everything.

    salonva thanked Lizzie Borden
  • 2 years ago

    Hi salonva. How is the bathroom remodel going?

    salonva thanked Lizzie Borden
  • 2 years ago

    Hi Lizzie--- the bathroom is moving along. It's a real construction site. All the preliminary plumbing and electrical stuff is done. The room photo was yesterday before the work day began, and then he began laying the floor tile....




    So I am still looking for paint colors but it does help having the tile in the room......:)

  • 2 years ago

    salonva, I love your tile! Everything you chose is going to look so good. I can't wait to see it :)).

    What paint colors are you considering?

    salonva thanked Lizzie Borden
  • 2 years ago

    Great tile choices. My experience with color is simple. Always pick one shade lighter than whatever you think you want.

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