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How do you logistically hang an OVERSIZED ARTWORK ON AN OVERSIZED WALL

2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago

Today's question is solely about how to physically hang my oversized painting. In the pics you can see my old fireplace mantel with my painting leaning on it for contextual dimensions. Recently, I removed the old mantel. My new 88x8x8" mantel arrived today and extends the length of the fireplace (I will mount it later today). The ceiling's apex is 17 feet above the floor. My canvas painting is 5x4 feet. It is my understanding that the bottom of the painting should be 8-12" above the mantel. Obviously, the top of the painting will be extremely high on the wall. How in the world can I physically hang something that high? They have already fastened the wire hooks, about one-third of the way down on either side. If I use wire, won't it slant forward at the top?


What is the proper (and simplest) way to hang something this size at that height? I have an extension ladder and a hammer. Is there a hanging hack? Please provide logistics.






Comments (25)

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    get a friend and measure the spot on the wall for each hanger to position.

    looks light weight, won't need to hit a stud, the sheetrock will hold just fine.

    you need a secure tall ladder, I wouldn't use an extension ladder.

    rutabaga4 thanked Lyn Nielson
  • 2 years ago



  • 2 years ago

    This is beginner level art hanging! Luckily that is a lightweight piece. You need two step ladders and two people.

    Get adjustable J-hooks to place on the wall, which takes away the problem of putting the nails/hooks in exactly the right spot. Turn the nut and get the art perfectly level once it is hanging.


    rutabaga4 thanked chispa
  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I have a very large piece over my fireplace, 6-7ft tall. I used two Monkey Hooks to hang it.




    rutabaga4 thanked ilikefriday
  • 2 years ago

    Ilikefriday, do you have a website for your art?

  • 2 years ago

    I mean, to see your art creations?

  • 2 years ago

    You installed D ring hooks on your artwork. Here is an easy hanging video.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lds6BdZShRE

    rutabaga4 thanked ratherbesewing
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I use painters tape…I attach a long piece over the hangers on the back of the painting, poke holes where the nails will go, then remove it and attach the tape to the wall where I think I want to hang it. Then I measure to make sure it will be centered horizontally (if needed) and I measure to make sure top and bottom are about where I want it, adjust the tape as necessary, hold a level to the tape and adjust if necessary, and then hammer away at the holes in the tape. Easy peasy and totally doable with just one person.

    rutabaga4 thanked User
  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    ONE person, one pencil , one hammer, two picture hooks , one piece of scrap paper.....= perfect.

    Follow:

    With any d ring........it's math: ) and that tape measure

    Measure bottom of art to top of d ring

    Add inches of wall you want below art to that number

    = _________" write it down

    Measure d ring to d ring centers at top of the

    d ring and DIVIDE BY 2 = CENTER -

    = _____" ( write it down )

    Find Center on your wall, Go UP from the floor, ( or in this case the mantel ) with the tape measure, to the spot that is d ring top plus the exposed inches below ....make an x ( you wrote it down )

    Measure from that center to right and left d ring inches ( you wrote it down : )

    Check both locations bottom to top, and left to right inches.

    Bang in the picture hooks, bottom of hook at your x's

    Result? Two perfect D ring locations, no tape and a level hang, first try, every time.

    You don't need a level : ) and I never use one.

    The very same method works when you want two hooks spaced any number of of inches apart using wire on a wide piece of art that you desire NOT to have to straighten every time you pass it.

    Don't believe it? I can hang forty pieces of art in under two hours.

    If you can't divide fractions, you might need the masking or painters tape ?? : )

    PS,,,,,,Please lose the green book case crowding your fire ?

    rutabaga4 thanked JAN MOYER
  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    @Jj J

    No, I don't have a website or anyplace where I have a collection for people to see. I don't paint as a profession and have never sold any pieces. I simply enjoy painting and do it because it is how I relax. I have created many, many pieces over the years and have given lots away but it is just a hobby. My house is where I display my work🙂.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    That in my world woulld not be considered a large piece and the info her eis great to help hang it but I would not do it over the FP it is very nice whynot hang it where it can be hung at the right height to be enjoyed .

    rutabaga4 thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 2 years ago

    @chispa Thank you for the pic. I have never seen an adjustable J-hook. I appreciate knowing my options.


  • 2 years ago

    I VERY much appreciate all comments and opinions on Houzz and I think they are worth sharing because we can all learn things through someone else’s lens. In fact, I want to share these pics because I think it may put in perspective why I made the choice in painting size and location. In another post, I attempted to find help decorating a mirror that I had placed on top of my fireplace. Before I received feedback, I didn’t know that a beefier mantel and larger artwork would be more appropriate for that location. But it was only after the suggestions, on that post, was I able to see what was possible. The height of the wall over the fireplace is the only wall in our home that can handle the size of the painting. It really is a statement piece that pairs well with the view of the forest outside our windows. Of course the forest is pretty dormant right now, but come spring, summer, and fall it’s stunning. I can’t wait to get it hung so it can be enjoyed by everyone!






  • 2 years ago

    @JAN MOYER Now THAT'S logistics! Wow!


  • 2 years ago

    @JAN MOYER Also Jan, I had to giggle at your comment about the green bookcase. I actually just bought a leaning ladder book shelf for that side of the TV, so I would still be able to display some things (different than what's on there now), but it would open it up a little and not be so heavy, or crowded. And, because the other side has the other green bookcase, I plan on removing it also. I bought a tree and plan on working it into that space as an arrangement on that side of the TV. We have had those bookcases since my sons were babies. My youngest son came home from college over Christmas break and I told him I was thinking about getting rid of them. He shouted, "Thank you mom, it's about time!!"



  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Here are hooks from HD that you can use. Your canvas weighs much less than 10 lbs.


    Watch one of the videos posted for info.



    rutabaga4 thanked BeverlyFLADeziner
  • 2 years ago

    @BeverlyFLADeziner Are you suggesting ReadyNail to be used with the D-rings on the back/sides? I have avoided those in the past because it seems that they would cause the painting to stick out from the wall instead of nice and flush.


  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    A Painting SHOULD lean just the slightest, teeniest bit forward from top. That is the reason for picture hooks, secure, and no not just a lowly nail. Just as there should be some slack in the wire....and nothing makes me crazier than an idiot framer who stretched wire TAUT across. Horrible and should know better. Just try getting your hand behind there to get the damn thing on a hook!

    You can laugh at the math project, but it works: )

    Every single time.

    There have been years, when I guarantee I have hung 500 - 1000 pieces of lord knows what ......all alone as that is my request to all clients.

    " Get OUT!!! Go somewhere: ) " Especially take hubby with you. Pleeeeze

    rutabaga4 thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    In the event the canvas tips noticeably, then just add the tape pad/bumpers to the bottom to level it.

    This canvas is not that heavy. You can hang it on two brass picture nails if you're so inclined.

    rutabaga4 thanked BeverlyFLADeziner
  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    It has D rings! The higher on the piece you place those? The LESS the forward tip..

    Just trust me on this? I can't write a novel: )

    The same applies for a screw in ring, and wire....the more wire slack and lower the rings? The MORE tip. There ya go.

    rutabaga4 thanked JAN MOYER
  • 2 years ago

    Don’t put it too high over the new mantle as several people have said. It will look very lost. I think the inches recommended by @kandrewspa sound right. And listen to @Jan Moyer for hanging specs!

    rutabaga4 thanked RedRyder
  • 2 years ago

    Everything we’ve ever bought (one is 6x6’) hangs just fine, no tipping forward….all hooks supplied by gallery…they know. (Even though I sometimes don’t trust them😬…..nothing has ever broken or fallen.)

    rutabaga4 thanked coray
  • 2 years ago

    “In the event the canvas tips noticeably, then just add the tape pad/bumpers to the bottom to level it.”

    Those bumpers are great.👍🏻 I‘ve had wires added to several frames. There’s almost no forward tipping since the wires have just enough slack. Didn’t even need the bumpers for them.

    rutabaga4 thanked chloebud
  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    It's making me nuts.: )

    Why would you want really great art to appear STUCK on a wall like it was slapped on with one of those Home Joe press and stick methods you'd use for art in a kids bedroom??


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    If you're on a phone, finger spread the upper right hand corner of the oil over the sofa. You can see the slimmest! shadow that gradually disappears down the side of the frame.

    Barely a 5/8 " shadow...........to flush well before the bottom..

    Just saying: ) Go in the home of a true collector some time, report back lol

    If you're obsessed? Felt protector pads are better, and don't scratch a wall, don't dry out and fall off.