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another mysterious (to me) droopy needled pine

In the background of the opening scene of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGHSPwfdKmo


I was trying to find a video to relate New Hope and Bucks County to a friend of the family who will be visiting my family in that part of PA. This was the first that came up in google.


I just don't think it looks like the avarage Pinus strobus. Am I right? Could it be a P. wallachiana? Or just an unusual strain of white pine? It certainly isn't P. patula, athough it could be a hybrid of a [more] Northern American and Mexican pine...but that seems far fetched. The very first time I visited Swarthmore College/Scott Arboretum in the mid 2000s, I saw a pine labeled as being from Mexico, but I can't remember which and I haven't been able to find it in the online DB. It's possible it died in one of the PV winters.


This reminds me of a droopy needled pine I asked about on another forum, also in the PA suburbs. The great Pineresin wasn't able to make a definitive ID of that one.


Comments (6)

  • 2 years ago

    David,

    At what point in time in the video does the tree appear?

    UpperBayGardener (zone 7) thanked BillMN-z4a
  • 2 years ago

    41 North, thank you so much for the commentary that had nothing to do with the OP’s inquiry.

    David, if it’s the shapely, bluish conifer behind the video guy’s head, I don’t think it’s a pine. It reminds me of a very nice Abies concolor, but that seems unlikely.

    UpperBayGardener (zone 7) thanked maackia
  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Here is a screen grab from 11 seconds in, to make it perfectly clear.



    One minor problem here is his camera has already recognized this is a highly detailed background element and is, I suspect, doing some kind of "add additional blurring" routine, to enhance the efficiency of mp4 compression. Nevertheless it's clear this is something in the white pine family, not a fir.

    Not to push this any more off course than it's already gone (which is one of the delights of GW, I'm glad it isn't "over moderated" like so many forums) but the OTHER mystery droopy pine I discovered in Bucks County, at the site of a now defunct nursery, is green, not glaucous.



    That acreage is being developed for upscale housing, so it's quite possible this tree has been cut down by now. I suspect there was some kind of stipulation to keep at least a few of the trees, but those sort of things often end up getting ignored in part.

    In any case I'll be up there sometime later this spring, and will definitely try to find the first tree. I'm not sure I'll go back for the 2nd tree, it would be too sad to see a massive collection of rare conifers destroyed. 😔

  • 2 years ago

    I saw that one right away david but that way cameras adjust things; I thought it might be a broad leaf (Ginkgo biloba}. I never saw a pine like that before. Interesting.

  • 2 years ago

    Yep. Probably P. wallichiana or hybrid. Hope to get more pics later this spring. Thank goodness the guy says exactly where he is!


    BTW, VERY OT but 100% agree w/41 North's assessment, with the caveat though that although a known gay vacation spot, it's a truly diverse crowd and there are a LOT of ('traditional', 'nuclear') families present. Like my brother, his wife and kids who live about 10 miles away. We've been there many times together, enjoying some of the incredibly good fine dining in New Hope and nearby. (Although our family favorite is actually a bit up the river, the Black Bass Inn!) When my nephews were younger they loved riding on the the New Hope & Ivyland railroad. They also loved Fonthill Castle and the Mercer Museum in Doylestown. Bucks County is definitely of the top 10 'branded for having a certain je ne sais quoi' counties in the country, up there with Sonoma and Napa counties CA! A wonderful vacation spot if you ever find yourself on the east coast in either Philly or NYC, looking a day trip option with, frankly, an 'old money' versus 'new money pretentious' vibe. Ragu Fine Arts, who do many appraisals for Antiques Roadshow, are across the river in Lambertville, and the oh so Scottish voice of Alasdair Nichol has done many valuations of paintings from the renown local scene: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Impressionism