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Hybrid Perpetual and Bourbon Share 2024

2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago

Any HPs or Bourbons blooming in your gardens? Reine des Violettes and Zepherine Drouhin have been so lovely this spring that I thought I’d start a 2024 photo share. Please jump in with your blooms! For those who wish to know, my “real deal” RdV came from The Antique Rose Emporium. Carol

Reine des Violettes





Zephirine





Comments (35)

  • 2 years ago

    Marchesa Boccella


    Youlanda d' Aragon


    portlandmysteryrose thanked Ken Wilkinson
  • 2 years ago

    Ken, your Portlands are gorgeous! It looks like you have 2 MBs? Is she a favorite of yours, too? YdA must be one of the most fragrant of all roses. I have a very young Duchesse de Rohan and am really looking forward to her also incredibly fragrant blooms!

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    HP rose Souvenir du Dr Jamain—deep velvet red darkening to burgundy red-plum and gloriously scented! My plant is virtually thornless.







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    Hermosa (Bourbon-China)








  • 2 years ago

    These roses don’t work in this climate, but I really love seeing them. Souvenir du Dr. J is hypnotic.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked sylviaww 10a, hot dry inland Socal
  • 2 years ago

    Sylvia, I’ll bet you have some lovely Teas and Chinas down there in CA!

  • 2 years ago

    I'm so jealous of your SdDJ! It's beautiful, how is the fragrance? I've wanted it for a few years but have doubts about hardiness.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
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    Magpie, I’m not sure about SdDJ’s hardiness, but the fragrance is deep, scrumptious, old rose. Did you spot the CO state flower in the Hermosa photo? I bought some plants and seeds for my garden because I love columbines, and the CO blue ones were my paternal grandfather’s favorite flowers. He took a gazillion photos of them on family vacations! :) Carol

  • 2 years ago

    I’m very impressed with this Bourbon, Mme. de Sévigné. An upright bush, blooms with real substance (rain and heat tolerant) and a fragrance to die for:





    portlandmysteryrose thanked NollieSpainZ9
  • 2 years ago

    And a bloom of MdS from last year, it’s always a cooler pink than Mme. Isaac Pereire but the colour and form does vary:



    portlandmysteryrose thanked NollieSpainZ9
  • 2 years ago

    Mme. de Sevigne is beautiful. I used to have it...don't remember what happened to it. Does it have to be a picture from this year? Here's Madame Lierval, hp:




    Capitaine Dyel de Graville, bourbon, said to be a sport of SDLM but more vigorous. I don't know, my plant is not more vigorous. Blooms took a few years to get to this pretty shape:





    Monsieur le Capitaine Louis Frere






    General Jacqueminot



    Souvenir de la Malmaison Rouge or Leveson Gower




    portlandmysteryrose thanked erasmus_gw
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    So many beautiful roses here! I really love this rose class. Im enjoying everyone's photos!

    My Reine des Violettes Imposter has been the most beautiful rose in my garden this week. I missed getting a photo of it on it's best day but here it is leading into full flush. Can you find my mailbox?


    My other HPs are just starting.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked librarian_gardner_8b_pnw
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    Okay! Quick photos from this morning. Here's the Royal Imposter.



    Her blooms are larger than ever this year. She started as a band May 2021

    portlandmysteryrose thanked librarian_gardner_8b_pnw
  • 2 years ago

    Wow these are all so amazing

    portlandmysteryrose thanked Echo_Texas_zone9a
  • 2 years ago

    That's some mailbox rose, librarian. I keep thinking it might be good to do a thread about roses from Vintage. Here's another from them:


    Gloire de Chedane Guinnoisseau




    Maggie...my biggest bourbon, still going strong




    Souvenir de la Malmaison




    There are so many plants from the past that can be so good....one hardly needs to keep up with the latest and greatest. Although some can be healthier. There have been some efforts in that direction.

    I got a new Reine des Violettes this spring from DA Roses. I think i've put it in too much shade.

    Anna de Diesbach...so fragrant, so bs prone






    portlandmysteryrose thanked erasmus_gw
  • 2 years ago

    Nollie, your Mme. de Sévigné is gorgeous! I wish I could bury my nose in her petals.

  • 2 years ago

    Erasmus, your roses are always a joy to see! I wish I had a place to try a Capitaine Dyel de Graville. What a romantic Victorian! I used to grow SdlM, and even though she hates PNW wet weather, she always made more blooms, so I’d just clip the mess and wait for future flushes. I’m glad you grow Maggie. I love the history of that one. The Rose Rustlers still hold a special place in my heart, and my dad graduated from ATM. Feel free to post photos from any year. Your garden rivals Mottisfont!

  • 2 years ago

    Librarian Gardener, I wonder which delightful ”Not RdV” is in your garden? I think there are a few going around, and they are all just as lovely as RdV. Your rose is so full of petals that I could faint in ecstasy!

  • 2 years ago

    Oh, shucks and geez, Portland..you're too kind. Ben that is the best Mme. Isaac I have seen. Unbelievable for one year!

    portlandmysteryrose thanked erasmus_gw
  • 2 years ago

    OMG, Ben! Your MIP is sublime!! I don’t think I’ve seen a lovelier specimen. I so wish I could grow her well here, but she is a diseased mess in Portland. Big Bourbons and deadheading: If you have one that is truly remontant, deadheading (and light pruning) helps to increase the number of sporadic summer blossoms and fall mini show. I hum to make the chore lighter. If you have a Bourbon that hardly, if ever, reblooms, deadheading can encourage the stubborn bugger to offer some fall flowers. You can also use hand hedge shears and whack chunks at a time. Unfortunately, I have to seal cuts due to our plague of cane borers, so I try to get meditative about the chore.

  • 2 years ago

    Such gorgeous roses here, wow! Well I won’t be posting my pics of Mme. Isaac Pereire after seeing Bens!! It’s certainly vigorous with the potential to be huge, but the blooms are not very heat tolerant and they ball and brown after the heavy spring rains here. Mme. de Sévigné is still fairly compact but it beats MIP hands down for toughness.


    I would love to have ’Maggie’, yours is stupendous Erasmus.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked NollieSpainZ9
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    Carol,

    For many years I had wanted to grow Mme Isaac in Dallas, and there was one local rose specialty nursery that consistently stocked her. She was always the sickest rose at that nursery, a small tangle of thorns and blackspot. And every year I’d put one in my cart and put her back, feeling too foolish to buy the worst looking plant among thousands of beautiful rosebushes at that nursery. I finally got her when I moved to CA, the weather here really suits her.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
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    Ben, I don’t know if you remember that I grew up in Dallas. There have been several years of forum conversations since I mentioned it, but I wanted to mention it again and share my empathy! I can so relate to your temptation and wise hesitance where MIP was concerned. I honestly doubt she ever looked any better in Dallas than when you spotted her blackspotted self at the nursery. I am so thrilled to see your magnificent CA specimen now! Your patience and longing are finally quenched; you absolutely deserve the long awaited reward of that glorious mountain of fluff and fragrance in your garden. Carol

  • 2 years ago

    Carol

    I did remember you grew up in Dallas, so yes, I am very happy to know that you can relate to the climate challenge and the reward of living elsewhere!

    portlandmysteryrose thanked BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
  • 2 years ago

    I stopped over in Dallas on a return trip from CA to AR and back to CA when I was about 12 and travelling by myself. My Aunt Margaret picked me up and took me to her favorite hair salon and had my hair done. Then she took me to lunch at Neiman Marcus. I remember big grain multicolored sugar and lots of different kinds of rolls in a basket. Blue water glasses. Now we have a BIL in the Dallas area and one in Houston.

    Houston just recently had a terrible storm that did a lot of damage. Lived in Houston 12 years so I know the climate challenge too though it's probably wetter than Dallas. Some areas near the San Jacinto river routinely flooded.

    My second Madame Isaac had short little stems that annoyed me.

    Another fine hybrid perpetual....Grandmother's Hat:

    Thank you, Nollie.



    portlandmysteryrose thanked erasmus_gw
  • 2 years ago

    Erasmus, what delightful memories! Lunch at NM—fancy! I’d like to see that colorful sugar. I’ll bet you went to the dowtown store. I’m trying to remember the name of the luncheon tea room. NM was always a very rare and special occasion shop for our family. My father gave my mom 10th, 25th, etc. anniversary presents from NM. My sister has my mom’s silver anniversary earrings and necklace set. Yes, the Houston area has really been hit with severe weather! I still have a number of connections in the area, too. It seems like I’m always texting to check on someone. Grandmother’s Hat is a real charmer! If I had even an inch to squeeze it into my garden….

  • 2 years ago

    LOVE all the roses shared above! Heres my humble offering in comparison, SDLM.



    portlandmysteryrose thanked jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal
  • 2 years ago

    My MIP is in her second year and looking a bit rough in her pot. After seeing Ben’s picture I‘m inspired to get her into a better situation since she clearly has a lot more to give when she is happy!


    As for what is blooming for me now - as with my other shares these are all two or three year old roses in pots but I'm hoping to get most into the ground this year.


    Variegata Di Bologna changed my mind about striped roses when I first saw her almost a decade ago soon after I moved to Seattle from Los Angeles. Now I finally have her and in her second year she is giving me a lovely spring flush despite some over the top proliferation in places



    Of course. once I got started on stripes I had to get Honorine de Brabant



    Coupe D'Hebe just getting started



    Mme Dubost showing off a bit of spring proliferation



    My beloved Marchessa Boccella - I actually have two now because I forgot to check helpmefind when I ordered Jacques Cartier from ARE 😄 But I’m not complaining because she is healthy, well mannered and a near continuous bloomer for me.




    portlandmysteryrose thanked Heather RR (PNW 8b)
  • 2 years ago

    A few more shots of Souv. du Dr. Jamain. He can be trained as a climber, his long canes can be pegged to burst into blooms all along or he can be pruned to form a large shrub. The fragrance is incredible! His velvet blooms burn in west sun. He is fairly shade tolerant and is especially good with indirect light.





  • 2 years ago

    I think I might need Souvenir du Dr. Jamain too. What a beauty! And Ben, I love your Madame Isaac Periere…. But you are right! It will get huge. Mine is almost scaring me. I have it stretched out along the east wall of the house and I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say it’s every bit of twenty feet wide. Today I was noticing the new canes shooting up the wall straight up. One must be at least ten feet tall and doesn’t look like it’s done growing. I put it in the ground in the fall of 2022, so it’s not been in my garden quite two years. I did have severe powdery mildew troubles this spring and it bloomed beautifully anyway.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked judijunebugarizonazn8
  • 2 years ago

    Sou. du Dr. Jamain is unbelievable....Munstead Wood doesn't have anything on the Dr. I planted Dr. Jamain in a hot, dry spot and he died. Might have to try again.


    Sounds like your Mme Isaac is a good one, Judi. For some reason mine was never that vigorous.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked erasmus_gw
  • 2 years ago

    This is the most marvelous thread.

    portlandmysteryrose thanked monarda_gw
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    Mme. Ernest Calvat, first bloom (of this season) opening.



    And fully open..


    portlandmysteryrose thanked Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
  • 2 years ago

    My Souvenir du Président Lincoln on it’s scond year with me. This picture doesn’t do it justice - the bloom is very densely petaled and huge!

    Also, my MIP is finally blooming! She’s looking a bit better after a dose of liquid iron and a new pot with fresh potting mix.



    portlandmysteryrose thanked Heather RR (PNW 8b)