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Mantel Height for high hearth and 8ft ceiling- HELP!

2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago

Hi, we are going to run stone to the ceiling which is 8ft high. I read the min clearance for the mantel needs to be 12 inches from the firebox. I'm a little confused if I am required to go beyond the 12 inches since my wood mantel will be 7 inches deep. The taped mantel is 13 inches above firebox in my picture.Any help is greatly appreciated! Also, a TV will not be going above the fireplace. Our tv is on a different wall.









Comments (12)

  • 2 years ago

    You were so smart to tape the outlines of what you were thinking about doing. When I look at your tape, it is obvious that your mantle is going to be too high. So I think you have a couple of options. One is to change out the firebox to something about half the size, or to do some kind of an electrical insert. Another option to me would be to have the fireplace wall be really neat tile or stone, and then do kind of like a pseudo mantle on either side where you could put display items. Maybe we called those shelves…? Lol.

  • 2 years ago

    Do not add a mantle above that firebox...it is much to high and will always look like a mistake.

  • 2 years ago

    I think you might need a shorter firebox like this one, so you can move the mantle lower. to bad you couldn't remove the hearth.




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  • 2 years ago

    I already bought a mantle…this was my inspiration and a similar fireplace with high hearth and mantle

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    You can NOT just change /alter the existing firebox. You can't just "make it shorter, wider anything"! It isn't that simple, though you may wish that. It you want a lower mantel? It must be non combustible. Many available, or create your own with a soapstone surround and a mantle from the same material.

    Get with a local fireplace store. That's is THE BEST WAY.

    Fireplaces have existed in low ceiling rooms for centuries. Rooms slightly over seven feet. It only became an issue when everyone wanted a tv over a fire : )

    PLEASE Skip the built ins, skip the floating shelves. Negative space is a good thing! ART........ it a wonderful add: )

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Jan,


    I beg to differ. You can in fact change the fireplace opening height as I have shown in the mockups if it is done with none-combustible materials. I have been in the fireplace business for nearly 35 years and have done this on many fireplaces just by simply using a fireplace glass door.


    What you do NOT want to ever do is make the opening larger, which really requires some major demo and reconstruction and usually ends up with a poorly drafting fireplace. Lowering the opening height usually helps increase the draft.


    @smsica

    The first inspiration photo you show does not take into consideration that your fireplace is raised an additional 8" above the already raised hearth, hence the reason your mantel will be too high unless you lower the fireplace opening as I suggested.

  • 2 years ago

    Fireplace Treatments - We do have glass doors. This was my before pic - it was granite and glass doors. We are planning to put the glass doors back on along with the stone. In your mockup #1, is the mantle about 12 inches above firebox? That seems to be my township interpretation. I think it looks ok. We are not putting a tv above the fireplace. Our tv is on another wall.


  • PRO
    2 years ago

    The mantle in Mockup #1 is set to the same height as your blue tape markings. That appears to be closer to 16" above the opening. I personally find this way too high. A typical mantel should be somewhere between 50" to 56" from the floor to the TOP of the shelf. Mockup #1 is closer to 74" if the mantel is 4" thick. You may be able to get away with a mantel that high if the ceiling is 14 feet tall, but not with an 8 foot ceiling. Hence the reason I offered the alternatives to lowering the mantel.


    It would be great if you can include some dimensions. Here's what I'd like to see. Please correct the measurements I included. I estimated these using graphics software and am very curious how close they are:


    Height of hearth from floor: 19"

    Height from hearth to bottom of opening: 8"

    Width and Height of opening: 37" W x 27 1/2" H

    Top of opening to bottom of your blue tape: 16"



  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Floor to hearth 11”
    Hearth to bottom of opening 8”
    Top of opening to blue tape - 12” now in new pic
    Fireplace opening - 38 wide by 28 high
    Ceiling height - 8ft



  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Here it is with the bottom of the mantel 12" from the opening.






  • 2 years ago

    Thank you Fireplace Treatments. Mock-up looks great! I'm good with the 12 inches