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I'm considering a remodel for our main bathroom and have two designs in mind. I'd love to hear your opinions on which seems more practical. Any suggestions or ideas are welcome too. It's a spacious bathroom, and I want to make the most of it.
Bathroom A has a 60” linear drain and B has a 72”

Bathroom B
Bathroom A

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  • PRO
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    You don't have two "designs" You have two different linear drain lengths in the same poorly designed bath, that will have water all over the bath floor, no matter the drain length.

    Neither is practical.

    You can begin with your method for closing the potty closet door, once you are IN the potty closet........which has no room ? and is claustrophobic width ?

    Move the entry to the walk in closet!

    There is no reason for the tub angle, at all

    Shower is too small for bathroom size, and too small to be treated as a wet space, no matter what.

    Show the existing condition? Something tells me this a "lipstick" remodel, and you are simply replacing a big dropped in tub with a vast deck, with free standing tub , perhaps with an insignificant gain in shower, and no real improvement to function....at all. None. Sorry







    Have a his/hers - its a football field size bathroom



  • PRO
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    I agree with all of Jan's comments and her plans are all a better use of space I never do a closet access trhough a bathroom just poor planning totally. Toilet rooms are to be just plain silly, no one should be using the toilet when someone else is in the bathroom . Do you need a tub ? Free standing tubs are IMO a PITA to get in and out of and a corner one is a toatl PITA to clean around since you will need to stand almost on your head to do those corner walls. I do not like huge bathrooms for pure pratical reason I clean my bathrooms every day and honestly the smaller and functional the better . The size of the linear drain has really no bearing on a bathroom that is designed first . You have ahuge space and a small shower . I need a lot more info as to what you need in the bathroom and then what you WANT

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    The open shower wouldn't work for me, too drafty/cold ... and I live in FL!


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    Threads die with no feedback from the OP.

    "Any suggestions or ideas are welcome too. It's a spacious bathroom, and I want to make the most of it."........

    For pro's and experienced gen pop, an improvement is sometimes seen quickly, as are the flaws in any design. A drain is a plumbing selection, size, just one very small element in a whole. Not a feature in any way..

    Making the most of any question, means the more context, the more feedback , the better answers you receive. Context can include the original state, limited resources, an inspo picture...etc.

    Context is free as are solutions/replies. Thank you!

  • last year

    Thanks for your designs, feedback and suggestions.
    I like the location of vanity since it gets tons of natural light and I can use the existing vanity and optimize the cost. The location of tub and showers are flexible. Our plumber recommended to use the walk in closet’s wall for head showers.
    We can move the door of WIC to the left but if 72” inches is enough for double showers, I prefer to save money on that.

    • we like to add a bench and not sure where the best position is.
      I have some ideas about the bench positions. Please share your feedback on them.

  • PRO
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    It would be very helpful if you fully detail the first drawing - every wall within , exact length of the vanity, and added a few pics of the existing bath . Also an inspo of the shower you envision, the overall FEEL you want in the bath. Allowing for a pocket door ( moving entrance ) to the closet at 30 inches, the length of the shower is whatever you want.....or however much you want to clean. Stand next to each other, "wash" your hair and see what feels comfortable. You have room for 8' if you want it - it's however much you want to clean.

    Assuming you want frameless heavy glass for shower, know that door is best hinged to a wall, and not to more glass.

    There are many ways to have the function of a niche ......without the waterproofing issues, trim issues, heights of product that really merits no highlight: ) Not sure when a shampoo bottle became exciting, but truth is most aren't. A full length shelf in a solid surface,,,,,a match to counter top perhaps, same thickness



    Or ledge style.......below



  • last year

    It's OK to walk through the closet to the bathroom (though I don't like it), but you shouldn't have to walk through the bathroom to the closet.

    Yes to having a bench in the shower. No to having his and her vanities in different locations. I like the WC.

  • PRO
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    The closet entrance is nearly atop the entrance to the bath. Did you read the thread, and the OP replies? The vanity locale is remaining. The potty closet appears too narrow ( I bet it's 30" , could be wrong) but the inward swing door......is pointless and inconvenient as not enough length to the space. Millions of folks walk through a bath with a closet entrance not nearly as conveniently located as this one.

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    Would suggest you listen to Jan and Patricia. They always have good ideas.

  • PRO
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    Oy!! Love the Kudo's from the peanut gallery : ) Lots of good ideas here in the Houzz peanut gallery!

  • PRO
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    Not to get on my soapbox, but I really dislike WICs inside a bathroom. Can you show us the adjacent rooms in plan form? If the bedroom is adjacent to the WIC, have the door open into the bedroom, not the bathroom.


    Also, are the skylights already installed or are they new additions? If the latter, make the vanity shorter, put the tub parallel to the window, and align the skylights with the positions of the sinks. I might also consider putting a skylight in the shower for addiitonal daylight.



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  • last year

    Thank you all for your great ideas!

    • I’m not fan of WIC inside a bathroom but with our floor plan is hard to change the WIC door location. Behind the WIC is another bathroom for a different bedroom.
    • If an open shower is too cold, I prefer to add door/glass.
    • I would like to have smaller surfaces to clean.
    • I did more measurements and updated my drawing. We demolished our bathroom and only kept the vanity.
    • I found a few bathroom pictures that I like to show my general ideas.
      Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

  • PRO
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    Eliminate the obvious flaws? of inconvenience? Studs and drywall are the least expensive in any reno.



    A 30" wide toilet closet is unimaginable to me - it meets code, but is far too cramped to have a door! Suffocating. Bonus here? Shelf storage.!

    Your "new": dimensions for length of bath, don't add to original 20' : )

    That said? You can make an under mounted tub beautiful. Advantage is a place to set bath necessities, a candle a glass of wine, your ipad, WHATEVER. No floor all around that needs to be mopped.

    A more easily accessed linen.



    Shower example with bench...either knee wall, or fully solid surface as your inspo below



    You can make a tub, both beautiful, and very convenient....



    I'd pick ONE tile for all flooring and shower walls and shower floor.

    ONE solid surface for counter top, bench, tub deck....., tub front etc.

    One finish all plumbing, and one accent finish if you want that.Simple can be a very beautiful thing. Consider who shall be cleaning the tile: )

    No matter the luxury, nobody spends all day in the bathroom, tub or shower regardless, nor wants to spend all day cleaning that bath.

  • last year

    Thank you, Jan, for your time and the great design. I'm really into the idea of utilizing the unused space behind the main bedroom door. I'm hoping to adjust the wall to enlarge the bathroom area.

    I personally prefer freestanding bathtubs as they seem more contemporary to me. Do you think the space between the vanity and the wall is too narrow for a freestanding tub, or is it just that cleaning around it might be challenging?

    We've also decided to update the tiles in the other bathroom and are thinking of swapping the bathtub for a walk-in shower. Do you believe that's a wise choice? Just to add, our house has 2.5 bathrooms, and removing the second bathtub would leave us with just one, which we're okay with. However, I'm wondering if you see this change as a potential downside for a house.

    Also, there's a tech nook behind the walk-in closet and bathroom that we were thinking of using for storage. Do you think there's a better way to utilize this space, like adding the space into the guest bathroom or walk-in closet?

  • last year

    I just wanted to say that I 100% agree with Jan re: adding a shelf/ledge to your shower instead of a niche. Recently, someone posted a renovated primary bathroom that had an AMAZING marble slab back shower wall with a ledge - it was STUNNING. If I remember who posted it, I will grab a screeshot of the shower and post it for you.

  • last year

    Yeah, I like Jan ideas. I’ll add a ledge instead of niche. It simple and beautiful.
    Thanks dani_m08, If you find the pictures, please share some screenshots.

  • PRO
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    The freestanding tub issue - hinges on the fact you are KEEPING a 113" vanity and most tubs in this category are 72" in length.


    Fix , from your more accurate inches, as above......





    Let's call this the darling of the design world. ........at this moment.

    But, they need room around them. For looks AND for cleaning around them, They can indeed be "sculpture" in a bath, but they LOSE THAT QUALITY when the are jammed into a space too small. Just because the internet shows them crammed, does not make it a great idea anymore than everything on the internet is a great idea.

    That's why IF you want it....you need to shove the vanity to the shared bedroom wall. All the way to the left, and lose the linen closet no matter where the door to that may be........

    Otherwise? You need to turn that tub, and you will lose a bit of the luxury of a deeper depth to the shower,



    Does this woman really use this tub? She can soak and watch tv!!

    No........she doesn't. she thought she would.


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    Does this one below get used? Yes....EVERY SINGLE DAY.

    There's a cleaning lady every week, and it's her problem as it could have used more room....But? the limits of the bath and compromises, and it's always give and get: ) must haves vs ,,,,,,,,,,,?


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    As to the other question???

    I don't touch the darn thing in the bath, unless a LOT less cramped

    It's a bath where two kids would have plenty of room

    ( nobody knows what's possible as to water , but without moving the toilet.

    To JUST turn a 30 inch tub bath to shower? Nope , save the money for the primary.: ) or PLAY with a version closer to this and get something for your investment.





    Otherwise??

    Add it to your primary closet



  • last year

    Thanks Jan for your recommendation and sharing the pictures!
    We’ve moved to the new and I noticed there is a vent between toilet and WIC door and it’s costly to re-rout it. So the WIC door cannot be moved. If 60 inches is small for having 2 head showers, I have to make the bench under shower heads to get 72” wide shower. If the bench goes to the left side, it gives me 60” shower. Do you recommend to build a bench or buy a teak bench like the one that Chispa shared?

  • PRO
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    This doesn't move the walk in door at all.

    You are going to have to pick a poison.......: )

    I'd like to see the vanity you're keeping as well





    If you want the free stand tub? You really need to shove the vanity all the way LEFT.

    You shower together every day? : ) Few actually sit on a bench, unless unstable. They use it to park bath products, or plop a foot to shave legs.

    Despite the room is 12 x 18.5 ( memory ) it isn't 20 feet long......and there are the givens/must keep. don't want move /can't move.

    I'm in the bathroom for 25 min max each day, start to finish and out the door, so you do you ....and what best suits you.

    Tape / or chalk it ALL on the sub floor. Every single inch, all the shower, vanity tub everything. With the contractor.

    The vanity might be your dictator.........? But the tub, shower, and tub can't have equal importance.

    There's a wasteland of space in the middle of the room, right?




  • last year

    We're considering either a framed tub as you suggested or a free-standing tub placed diagonally, as shown in my first drawing. I prefer your design for its ease of cleaning and using space between the tub and shower.

    Could you tell me the distance between the shower heads in your plan? If we keep the WIC door as is, we're limited to about 75". After accounting for the bench and ledge, we're left with less than 60" for the shower heads, which seems tight. I was thinking of placing the bench under the shower heads to save space. The bench would mainly be used for shaving, but it might be more useful in the future.
    Unfortunately, there's some wasted space in the center of the bathroom.
    Regarding the vanity, do you think it would be a good idea to install a wall cabinet in the center, similar to the one shown in this picture?

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    By the way, we’re also thinking of replacing the vanity top.

  • PRO
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    Okie doke: ) I will now treat you like the client who is paying a 5k retainer, if that's fine with you, or even if it isn't.

    ( your existing linen is gone...used for shower.)

    There is already WATER in this locale)

    I do this. and the review below pic


    All you've told me:

    I'm keeping the 113" vanity!!!

    I want it in the same location.....the light is fabulous.

    I want two shower heads, a free stand tub. at the very least A TUB.

    I need a bench in the shower, a niche or ledge....

    I have a heat run, not allowing a move of a WIC entry

    We review....as I ask.....

    What are the most important aspects? Budget, the shower, the tub and what variety, the vanity, the look and FEEL of the bath in its entirety? To consider as well? WHAT shall be the look when I stand in the primary bed and gaze in? A lot of tile and glass and bath stuff? Or a mirror,,,,,vanity......all bathed in light from an adjacent window and the skylights over the shower?

    In a bath with this much tile and tile labor, and over the next seven, ten , or 14 years? How IMPORTANT will the salvation of this vanity be? Within the total cost and time?

    Based on what I've been told, based on what I see....based on possibly getting the most attractive and functional bath within the available space?

    I do THIS as pictured. That's what I tell the person PAYING me: )

    which is the potentially gorgeous bath, that gives me 99% of what I really want...and yes,,,,fixes that horrendous toilet as well. BUMP !!


    oops, left out the towels and bathrobes









    ( reconcile your inches, especially that bottom of the drawing wall. )

    As to your query...

    " Would 60" be tight for two shower heads............yup! My bet is you end with a plumbing expense that only ONE person at a time, really enjoys.

    Or you make a mock of it and stand there together, I am here, you are there. Me? I'd boot his fanny out.

    Very last? You do a bath for the long haul. You define the time. This one is now ten years old. Would she change it? No.


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    Which only goes back to that 113" vanity and its importance in ten years, where it will have aged to? Twenty years? More? If you spent 7k on those above? That's a 700.00 per year decision amortized. A small Starbucks every day for a year? about 1300.00 bucks.

    ( You were changing the top, anyway.)

  • PRO
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    To any passing this thread?

    Baths can take longer to a useful condition, than a kitchen.

    How long do you want to be missing that bath or have workers in THE most private area of your home? Along with the dust?

    Don't !! Demo before the firm layout plan. Just do not do it.

    Don't begin ANY work until 70% of materials are on site, or awaiting delivery. ( plumbing fixtures, especially shower rough in valves etc,)

    T.I.L.E......

    Counter top, and any solid surface, selected and reserved.

    It's all plan and pecking order, and even with the BEST OF PLANS....PECKING ORDER!! One thing can not go before another. Shower glass needs a finished tile. A vanity needs a template. etc.

    It's not wise to put a cart before a horse, it's simply that this room is the worst, and most inconvenient place to do it.

  • PRO
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    Keeps the 113 vanity, has no effect on walk in closet..............I'm out : ) Lots of storage/ and don't forget to fix the toilet space

    and remember you see THROUGH glass.

    Everything in the bath is that 113" vanity. Stay/ go or RELOCATE.


    as pic.......

    If anyone following got lost? In living color, on the op orig draw.



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    " Elvis" left the building or went tub shopping............? or the poison is yet to be picked : )

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    I don't know if you've decided to go with the undermounted tub or stick with a free standing tub - but if you decide to use a freestanding tub - DO NOT change the tub/shower in the other bathroom into a shower only.


    Anyone who has little kids needs a functional tub for baths. A freestanding tub does not work for this purpose. You will lose families with small children (or couples who plan to have kids in the future) if you change the tub/shower combo in the other bathroom to a shower only + have a freestanding tub in the master.

  • last year

    @Jan - Thanks a lot for your awesome ideas! I'm really impressed by your enthusiasm for design.
    Oh no, I haven't picked a bathtub yet, haha. We've been busy with tackling new challenges for the kitchen remodel.

    I'm very much like your suggestion of repositioning the vanity and shower to highlight the vanity, mirror, and tub first. However, we're facing some constraints that make this layout a bit tricky to implement.

    Unfortunately, there's a vent under the vanity that's difficult to move because of how our joists are aligned and the overall complexity. Also, our plumber suggested using the WIC wall for a double shower since the other doors are external, which means they're more likely to damage during the cold winter here. Fixing anything on an external wall can be more complicated and expensive.

    We haven't finalized the design for the bathroom yet, but it seems we might lean towards the original plan and choose a framed tub over a freestanding one. We are considering removing the bench from the design as well for more space.
    Thanks again for all your input!

    @dani_m08 - Thanks, for your advice. I've been concerned about this. Since we don't have children yet, I've been thinking about the downsides of switching our bathtub for a standalone shower.

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    Lena - I wouldn't ever have purchased a home that didn't have a bathtub that worked for bathing babies/toddlers. If you do a framed tub in your master, it can be used. Personally, I would still have preferred to have a tub in the kid's bathroom. However, it seems like most people just recommend that you have one tub in your home that works for bathing kids = you could change the tub/shower in the other bathroom.

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    " Enthusiasm" is 33 years of professional tear apart and put together, hundreds of clients.......and a living, That too.. : )


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    Your prettiest bath, the one that forever gives you what you wanted at the start, but for ONE aging vanity you'd have to let go?

    Here below.......and why



    Heat the floor.!!!

    A bath this size @ 12 x 18? In a snowy climate? I'm definitely heating that bathroom floor!! and it will matter not the joists, which directions, the toe kick vanity vent that would have been an issue under a shower in this location.

    Again.....how long have we been putting kitchen sinks on window walls....

    This uses up some the that middle vacuum of floor....which is nice too.

    Most important? You began with a shower concept for two. ......

    clinging to the vanity locale, and the vanity?

    Shall equal this below . Too much space in the middle. Not the shower you dreamed of - no matter the tub








    Yes Dani, I deleted the previous comment: ) Better bath , here,

  • last year

    Absolutely, I'm already considering installing heated flooring :)

    Regarding the vent, our contractor said that even with heated flooring it's essential to keep the vent for enhancing air circulation and heating up the space more efficiently in the bathroom, especially given its size. Rerouting the vent in the toe kick is a challenge, we can adjust its position within the same bay. However, relocating it near the toilet isn't ideal :(

  • PRO
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    I'm not in love with your contractor.?

    The toe kick vent? How MUCH heat were you getting out of that thing?

    Hot air rises from a heated floor........you may even consider a ceiling fan to force air down.

    You may even get a separate HVAC guy in there to advise, as there are some amazing mini splits and other options.....

    Either way? It might be cold day in hell, before I'd let the vent......and more importantly the vanity, drive your design bus. It's too big a project for that .

    There's always a piggy issue in every house or project that wants control....a window... a wall. a vanity a toe vent, a post , a beam or something else

    These guys shouldn't drive...: ) if at ALL POSSIBLE






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    Agree with all of Jan's suggestions (so many good suggestions). Can't wait to see the final results.

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    I am also leery of putting shower valves on an outside wall beacause of freezing weather. Another consideration is if something is wrong with the valve, you can access it from an interior wall.

    My daughters new shower valve had a defect that wasn't discovered till the end!

    Luckily, they could fix it from the rear wall side without destroying the shower.

    If you go with your original plan , try to make the shower 72 x 54 or 72x60, put the door on the short side so the shower controls are easier to reach without getting wet.

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    I’d lean toward the 72” drain if the space allows it, especially in a larger bathroom. I’ve also found Bella Bathrooms useful for bathroom suite https://www.bellabathrooms.co.uk/bathroom-suites.html and planning a cohesive look, with modern and traditional suites, baths, basins and toilets in matching styles, so you can coordinate everything around the layout.