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Kitchen/Pantry Layout

7 months ago

We are remodeling our kitchen. The pantry in this photo is our current entryway. I’m a little concerned about the size of the pantry and accessing things in there.
I’d love to hear whether this layout is good, and what changes we should make for it to flow better.
(Note: I don’t want the single chair on the end by itself, so no one will be sitting there while someone’s working in the kitchen trying to access whatever may be there which currently is a wall oven).

Comments (16)

  • 7 months ago

    More notes:
    Pantry is approximately 3.5’ x 8’.
    There should be 4’ between all sides of island and kitchen counters.
    Lastly, we are a large family – sometimes gets busy in the kitchen!

  • 7 months ago

    Looks like a nice spacious kitchen! If you prefer to avoid island seating at the one end, consider having a beverage fridge there for ease of access. I would look at floor to ceiling pantry cabinetry at each end of pantry room to utilize max space.

  • 7 months ago
    last modified: 7 months ago

    Two reach-in pantries as shown by @JAN MOYER seems more usable due to the small size of and large window in the pantry.

    Have you considered closing up the window to the right of the cooktop in order to place the double wall ovens (I use and love mine) to the right of the cooktop at the end?

    Moving the double wall oven allows you to use the single island seat. It also allows you to use the wall where the double oven is shown with the nearby fridge to group items frequently used by family to keep them out of your work triangle. I use this area in my kitchen for a small 2nd sink and garbage pail, undercounter beverage fridge, coffee maker, toaster, breakfast items, glasses/mugs, food prep by 2nd chef, etc. It’s a heavy traffic area!

  • PRO
    7 months ago
    last modified: 7 months ago

    No matter the kitchen, and YES layouts are indeed appliance driven:

    You think through how you cook, MOST of the time......

    What needs to be hidden storage, for most of the time.

    Do you bake? How often? If you need a second oven, how often is that?

    The options for storage are nearly limitless. Drawers are far friendlier to use, than a door cabinet, will even eliminate the need for dishes in an upper cabinet.

    Maybe it's this......maybe not. But you need more info, and more context.



    Above? That 108 island is going to give you two 33" drawer MINIMUM on the sink side,, turn around and into the drawers go plates, bowls, mugs....silverware.

    You can put a wall oven, UNDER the counter top, right of a range. or eliminate that window and put a microwave and a single oven.

    But ...............only you know how you cook, and what your needs are.

    But in no way will you lose storage, in a re think of that pantry: )

  • 7 months ago
    last modified: 7 months ago

    In your current design, the left side door of the refrigerator won't open all the way because it is limited by the wall. You either need a cabinet or filler between the ref and that wall, or consider Jan's double reach in panty idea (which I prefer.)

    Check the specs for your refrigerator to get an idea of the clearance needed above and behind (ventilation) and to the sides (to fully open doors.) Look for a picture like the one below.


  • PRO
    7 months ago

    Personally, I like having a second oven for holiday meals and other entertaining events. Seems to me you could have a 48" range between the windows which would give you that sceond, albeit smaller, oven. Your pantry is also quite large. You could designate an area within it for a coffee station and/or wine/beverage fridge.



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  • 7 months ago
    last modified: 7 months ago

    Sabrina, the pantry may appear large. But, take into consideration the space needed for a person to walk around in there, not so much.

    Jan is correct…a reach-in pantry would be much better in your kitchen, and will store as much as a walk-in.

    I would not forgo the second oven…even if it would not be used regularly.

  • PRO
    7 months ago

    An awful lot of folks are using air fryers, even a counter top oven like a Breville. There are hordes of folks who find those accessory type appliances used far more often than than a standard oven, and would tell you they haven't opened the door to it in 6 months..

    The real point as it applies here? The op has to provide a lot more context beyond pantry size: ) to get close to any final location of apps and more.

    Real life example....? Of help in the community for the op. Rather a novel with a good no tears, but tears of joy ending


    https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/6359906/option-1-or-option-2-for-kitchen-layout#29135029


  • 7 months ago

    My old neighbor added another oven in their lower level, for holidays.

  • 7 months ago

    Our old neighbor added another oven in their lower level, for holidays.

  • PRO
    7 months ago

    Having an oven on another floor in a kitchen that large would not be a good idea.

  • PRO
    7 months ago

    ^^

    Agree. The kitchen is certainly large enough to handle a second oven, either with a larger range or a separate wall oven.

  • 7 months ago

    We had a 3'x6' pantry configured as yours is proposed and I hated it. The corners are hard to get to stuff and eat into your usable space. If you use only the longer back wall it feels like you are wasting the side wall space. Good luck figuring all of this out and coming up with a beautiful and useful kitchen space.

  • PRO
    7 months ago

    I have a similar pantry to this. I only have shelving in the two short sides to eliminate corners. One side is floor to ceiling open shelves 24” deep including the microwave (on a shelf). The other side has base cabinets with baking needs, a counter with a mixer and toaster. The uppers have more baking items. Works great. Mine has a pocket door that stays open most of the time

  • 7 months ago

    We are remodeling our kitchen. The pantry in this photo is our current entryway. I’m a little concerned about the size of the pantry and accessing things in there.
    I’d love to hear whether this layout is good, and what changes we should make for it to flow better.

    Thoughts on the pantry:

    - While the size isn't ideal, it's what you have, and it will work. I'd put in L-shaped shelves (with Lazy Susans in the corner) and a pegboard on the no-shelf wall. Pegboard can hold so much stuff!

    - You don't want a window in the pantry, as light is the enemy of food. If you need the window on the outside (for looks), consider adding light-blocking curtains or film to the window.

    I don’t want the single chair on the end by itself

    You've over-done the chairs. No family wants to sit Waffle-House style for a meal. People in the middle seats won't be able to get in/out easily, and sweeping around the chair legs will be a pain. Downsize this to 1-2 chairs, which will allow you to sit while cooking or 1-2 people to sit to talk to you or have a snack. Put the effort into a nice table, where the family can gather comfortably for a meal.

    Do you NEED a second oven? A 36 inch range gets a nice size oven.

    Agree. I bake 5-6 tier wedding cakes in a 30" range.

    A drawer micro is great for kids

    How often do you use a microwave? I wouldn't mind if mine disappeared. Before I'd go to the expense (and loss of storage) of a microwave door, I'd go with a very small microwave in the pantry ... plan for an outlet.

    Two reach-in pantries

    Do consider the cost difference between a pantry-that's-basically-a-closet-with-shelves vs. floor-to-ceiling-specialty-cabinets. Plus, a traditional pantry gives you a look at all your goods at a glance.

    Personally, I like having a second oven for holiday meals and other entertaining events. Seems to me you could have a 48" range between the windows which would give you that sceond, albeit smaller, oven.

    Nope, I'd rather have a kitchen that's "right sized" for every day -- it's easy to figure out how to make things work for holidays and entertaining. And 48" is an awful lot of space to devote to a cooktop.