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Miele vs Bosch ventless washer dryer

last year

We need advice on getting a ventless washer dryer to be placed in a small apartment. Which brand and model do you recommend for the best price and quality? Thank you

Comments (19)

  • last year

    The Miele is the better unit, but the Bosch is a better value.

  • last year

    Have you also looked as Asko?

  • last year

    Search is your friend. This exact topic has a multi-hundred post thread in this forum.

  • last year

    Bosch claims on some of their new dryers that the filter/coils are self cleaning. Not sure what consumer duties for maintenance are. Note that drying times can be longer than traditional vented dryers.

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    The Samsung DV25B6900HW and DV25B6900EW did well enough in CR's tests to earn recommended ratings and are half the price of Miele dryers. Read Home Depot owner reviews carefully; the 1-star reviews mostly commented on delivery and installation, not the dryers themselves. Bosch compact dryers were downgraded by CR due to low (2/5) predicted reliability.

  • last year

    Sigh. If you want the best, buy the Miele. If money motivates you, buy the Bosch. Everything else will be focused on lower initial cost.


    Ignore consumer reports. They consistently pick brands with poor long trrm reliability and owner satisfaction.

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    luna123456: "Ignore consumer reports. They consistently pick brands with poor long trrm reliability and owner satisfaction...Everything else will be focused on lower initial cost."

    Miele compact driers received recommended ratings from CR in both predicted reliability and owner satisfaction. And CR's ratings are not based on price. Based on your comment, the OP should ignore your own recommendation. That's what happens when you comment without any knowledge.

  • last year

    Plenty of knowledge. Consumer reports gets it wrong more thab they get it right.


    The OP is comparing Bosch and Miele. The recommendation hasnt really changed much in two decades. Bosch is fineone, but it middle/upper end of the spectrum in all categories. Miele has been top end/luxury for the same amount of time.


    If one has the money and is asking the Miele is the better pick. If money weighs higher on the list then Bosch.


    All of the other brands (not European) will be brand new in the last year or two to the heat pump dryer market in the USA and for many worldwide.


    Miele pioneered this market. My Miele T1 dryer is over five years old now. Has just shy of 9000 hours on the clock. It has dried between 2 and 6 loads of laundry every day for the last 5+ years. Not one problem with it.


    Does any other brand even have an option that tracks how long it has been on operation, much less advertise a design life minimum of 10k operating hours?




  • last year

    Which are those brands that are brand new to the worldwide heat pump dryer market? At least in the 24" section, many brands have had heat pump dryers for years (LG, Samsung, Haier and what have you). I guess these hardly play a role in the US, however.


    As for operation hours: I don't know if this is a new European law but, over here, more and more brands show operation hours. My Bosch, drying for one person, has been running for 1,124 hours. So far flawlessly. Of course, a far cry from the 9,000 hours quoted above.

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    Its why I mentioned “In the USA” in my post. Miele has been in the heat pump game the longest of the major manufacturers.


    As for hour meters, not sure why others took so long to get into the game. Miele has done this for decades. I have still not seen any other brand state an hour life for their appliance. Do brands, other than Miele, state an hour life in Europe?


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    luna123456: "Miele has been in the heat pump game the longest of the major manufacturers."

    So what? Ford manufactured its first car, the Model A, in 1903. Honda introduced its first car in 1963. Are Ford's cars better because the company has made them 60 years longer?

    "I have still not seen any other brand state an hour life for their appliance."

    That's because the information is useless. Cars require maintenance based on mileage so they sport odometers. Dryers -- including Miele's -- don't require maintenance based on the time they're in use.

  • last year

    Accumulated hours of operation or a cycle count surely is relevant to subjected wear-and-tear on the machine. There's a large variation among households on that point.

    A family with several ... 3, 4, 7, 9? ... kids will run many more cycles than a smaller household.

    Other factors also come into play.

    My childhood family was 3 kids and a working dad (service station/owner). He said a few times over the years that the washer and dryer were "running when I left for work and running when I got home from work."

    My mom washed-and-dried many more loads than a typical 2-person/retired household when dad began having medical/incontinence issues.

    I wash much less than typical a typical 1-person household being that I don't wash anything until I'm nearly out of clean items of a given type ... and I have a lot of each type.

  • last year

    At least as far as I can tell, the first test of heat pump dryers by the German consumer magazine was done in 2005. At this point, AEG/Electrolux and Blomberg (owned by Arçelik) had one model each.


    I don't know of another brand - on the German market - that explicitly advertise with operation hours. Maybe LG, Samsung etc. that'll give a 20 year guarantee on their brushless motors, for what it's worth. That being said, Miele's products better last that long, considering they are usually 2 to 2.5 times the price of a similar competitor's offering (again, in Germany).

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    dadoes: "Accumulated hours of operation or a cycle count surely is relevant to subjected wear-and-tear on the machine."

    Relevant, how? What will you do with that number? Your car's owner's manual might tell you to change the oil every 40K miles. What will you do with your dryer at 50...or 1,000 hours? Without context, the number means nothing.

  • 8 months ago

    I have the Samsung and the service team for the washing machine is extremely unsatisfactory.

  • 8 months ago

    As an alternative, I would suggest considering this set. The dryer is ventless and is a condenser dryer which means it will dry clothes more quickly than the Miele or Bosch heat pump. dryers will, and is not nearly as difficult to have repaired. You may also find that getting Electrolux branded laundry equipment easier to get serviced than either Miele or Bosch depending on where you live, of course. When this set gets installed, if you stack the dryer on top, you have the option of having the water that is collected, drained into the same pipe that your washer drains into thereby eliminating the need to empty the water tank.

    https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/EXWADRE422212.html

  • 8 months ago

    I recently purchased a Miele and have been very happy with it. Took a bit to get over the learning curve, but now that I've got the hang of it I couldn't be more pleased.

  • 8 months ago

    CR tested the Electrolux EXWADRE422212 Stacked Electric Dryer and Front Load Washer Set and while the washer performed well, the dryer was dead last in drying performance and predicted reliability. For a non-Miele compact pair, the LG LGWADREW1455 Stacked Front Load Washer and Electric Dryer Set would be a better choice.