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Kitchen Layout Advice

last year

Hi! We’re undergoing a kitchen reno and changing the layout. We hired an interior designer and wasn’t very impressed with the final design.

How could we make this kitchen more functional?

Comments (9)

  • last year

    What is it that you don't like about the design? Something you wanted but you're not seeing? I'm sure there can be more tweaks but it seems like a big improvement on a challenging space so far.

    A good suggestion I've seen here is to pretend to make a favorite or frequently made meal, walking through every step from the fridge to new sink location, where the knife drawer and cutting boards will be, etc. etc. to see how it will work for you in a real application.

  • last year

    Thank you! Here are the areas I’m worried about:

    1. Fridge and entryway space to right of fridge. It feels like an awkward walkway and am worried when the fridge doors are open
    2. Dishwasher angle; will there be enough space to step back when the door is open? Is there a better spot to put the dishwasher?
    3. Dead space right of pantry space
    4. Pantry door swing (will it hit the countertop?)
  • last year
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    I would put the fridge where the pantry is shown. Because the wall there angles away from the doorway, the fridge and it’s door swing will be less likely to obstruct traffic. Use a counter depth fridge with a right hinged door, and pull out the cabinets on the fridge wall so that the fridge doesn’t stick out.

    Use all of the space to the doorway, which will require a bit of custom cabinet work, and you can fit a pantry to the right of the fridge. It will be as deep as the fridge, so look at the ”Pantry . . . Cabinet” thread to get ideas for deep pantry cabinets.

    If fridge is paneled to match the pantry cabs, that could look pretty slick.

    That frees up the entire half wall where your sink is now, to be base cabinets of a depth consistent with the doorway, and counter workspace with a peninsula and a couple seats. The counter and peninsula surface should be all one level. Use the volume under the peninsula for storage, don’t let it go to waste.

  • last year
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    You could place the sink in the right window bay to get it away from the open dishwasher door, or pull the sink away from the wall to get a straight counter edge for sink and dishwasher which would allow the dishwasher door to not open into your legs. (There is no law that says counters have to be uniform depth everywhere.) The narrowest part of the passage wouldn’t get any narrower if you partly straighten the counter. You would end up with an extra foot or so of counter depth at the center window bay, which could be great if you want a ”garden window” thing, or just a clutter catcher..

    Regardless, the sink in the drawing looks maybe a bit small - width 25” maybe? If my wash sink were that limited, I’d want a second sink for prep, on the half wall.

    It is a very non-rectangular space. I don’t know if standard cabinetry catalogs have the flexibility to use the space well.

    You might consider investigating some actual custom cabinet shops. I had my cabinets made by a small local place and it wasn’t much more expensive than picking stock pieces from a so-called custom cabinet catalog. (How is it “custom” if you’re picking from stock dimensions and styles in a catalog?)

    I would much rather spend my money on optimized cabinetry and hence use of space, than on great expensive slabs of whatever is the ”It” natural or artificial stone of the moment. I realize it seems like a third of the posts here are about this or that awesome looking slab of stone, or later about how to fix stains, scratches, chips on said slab, but when I look at kitchens that still look and work great twenty and thirty years later, usually the countertops were not and are not the “star attraction”.

  • last year

    I agree with John about pantry and fridge swap. You can then make the peninsula a bit less deep as the proportion of it by the bay sink side seems too deep.

  • PRO
    last year

    Stop trying to take over the breakfast area for the kitchen .

  • last year

    Best to post the whole first floor plan to get accurate suggestions. I’m not liking a number of things but don’t know the overall space constraints.

  • PRO
    last year

    Yes we need to see a floor plan with other spaces to give better suggestions. If this area is all just dead space remove it and straighten the wall. The bay window does not easily become kitchen.

  • last year

    I'm no designer but looking at your plans it seems to me you'll be doing an awful lot of walking back and forth in your new kitchen. Can you get the refrigerator closer to the sink? Do something about the awkward angle of the sink/dishwasher? Ditch the little peninsula and make space for a kitchen table? The finishes look gorgeous but I'd be concerned about functionality. Bigger is not always better in kitchens.