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Need help with deciding if I should add a pantry here or not

last month

I'm planning the extension to my house, I don't have a lot of space to work with, and the existing structure is fairly small as-is. I've attached an image of the designed kitchen (it's not in place yet but it's the plan and it'll be in the blue space I highlighted) - my question is, does it make sense to have a pantry this size? Should I just opt for a closet? i'm concerned about the space to fit (I'm kinda small so I don't think it'd be a huge issue for me, but for others?)


TIA






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  • last month

    I put a wall of pantry cabinets around my fridge and it holds a lot in a very small space. I would use the area that is marked Pantry as a out of season storage closet that I go into 2x a year.

  • PRO
    last month

    Show the entirety existing and plan /flat 2 d WITH the kitchen....... and how about no on this?



  • last month

    You should add a scaled layout for the kitchen. The pantry isn't configured for the best use of space because of the door. A pocket door would help. To get one you need to relocate the Bedroom 2 door to the other end of the wall it's on now. Small loss of privacy separation between the two bedroom openings.

  • PRO
    last month

    Your drawing is confusing. The area outlined in bold black says "existing building." So what are you adding? Or is this the addition?

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    I need to see where the kitchen is going in the floor plan and that space needs to be shown with every measurement clearly marked and the new kitchen layout in another to scale drawing . The drawing you posted makes no sense. IMO a apntry outside the kitchen is not ideal so I need a lot of context . The blue squiggle is uless

  • PRO
    last month

    I don't think the pantry is a bad size. Is the image your existing kitchen, or a rendering of what it will look like? If the fridge and cabinets are or are going to be there, I can understand why the pantry is where it is. I would not do a swing in door though- it will block the interior of the pantry when the door is open. I would do an outward swing, bifold, or even maybe no door there. If you move the door on bedroom 2, you might be able to do a pocket door for the pantry.

    I would also put an outward swinging door on the hall bathroom- an inward swing makes that terribly tight to use.

    Dani Quan thanked beesneeds
  • last month

    To answer a few of the questions here:

    The kitchen image I sent is a render. It's currently an empty building. This is the original plan. I don't have any updated sketches with this built in to the new addition.


    The wall that separates the space is removed, the door to the bathroom I'm hoping to move (not the sink and I plan to have the door open to the sink not the toilet), the window in the kitchen will be sealed to accomodate the room being attached behind it.

    But I am hoping to fit that kitchen render into the space. The reason I was considering adding the pantry in that space is because it's right behind the kitchen. However if it would only be good for out of season storage, I may scratch the idea and leave that space to the bedroom :)


    Thanks for all your kind words and assistance





  • last month

    I think the pantry as drawn is an awkward size. Because of the door swing you can basically only put shelves in the corner. A shallow no walk in pantry in the same spot would be better. Or I'd rather give more space to the bedroom and get a better reach in closet for the bedroom. Post a plan of the *render* and you can get advice on storage in the new kitchen.

    Dani Quan thanked rebasheba
  • last month

    As much as I love a pantry, a space just 3.5' wide is not nearly wide enough to be useful. Shelves are going to be realistically 8"-12" deep, which will leave barely 2.5' in the middle to walk in, turn around, carry things, etc. And that assumes you put in a pocket or bifold door that doesn't open inwards, like in the diagram.

    Dani Quan thanked Toronto Veterinarian
  • last month

    How are your current cabinets working for you? How many do you have? More or less than in your new kitchen? Do you need the pantry or not?

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    I am assuming that other half of that now open area labeled "existing" is your living room as an open floor plan with the kitchen area. Can the kitchen and living room areas be swapped and put a large pantry in the odd exterior gap to the left of the bathroom eliminating that exterior gap altogether? That'll be a weird shady cave on the outside of your house as-is otherwise.

    Dani Quan thanked Nova
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    Thank you @beesneeds - that really helps. to understand the depth better. That's where my biggest trouble was. I'm trying to work around a plan that was already made and I'm just trying to make do with space available. I planned to remove the doors, or add a pocket door (if that's possibly an option - these are all cement walls so will need to talk to the contractor).

    Or possibly using @Nova's idea of swapping the two sides altogether and figuring out why the architect left the gap - maybe I can ask him to redo the plan and incorpoate the gap instead


    (Actually the architect just told me the space was left to allow for ventilation but I am going to see if I can figure something else out within my budget)

  • last month

    "Why is this even ABOUT a pantry?!"

    Because that's what she asked about. There's nothing wrong with answering her question (or not), without telling her she has to fix everything else that you don't like or assume she won't like. Sometimes people just post with a question, and they don't want their entire plan or idea to be evaluated. If you don't think it's a good question or worth your time, just move on. The presumption you have that everyone who does something you don't understand or like somehow is stupid and given it no thought is rather rude. I got the same treatment when I did a kitchen reno that the pros on these boards didn't like.

    Dani Quan thanked Toronto Veterinarian
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    Pantry:

    Or, consider a bi-fold door into the pantry so you don't take up any pantry wall space.

    12"D or so shelves along one long wall and the back wall.

    42" - 12" = 30". Depending on the people, 30" may be a wide enough aisle width for a pantry.

  • last month

    @Buehl so in avoiding taking any additional space by using a sliding or bi-fold door, you believe it'd be worth the effort of putting that in there? I tried doing a faux space to mimic the idea of having a pantry there but following beesneeds advice, I was concerned about how wide the shelves could be. I planned to only put narrow shelves on the long wall, and maybe a slightly wider shelf on the back wall.


    But I also like the idea of opening it up from that window instead and just redesigning the kitchen plan again. I'm running out of time to make final decisions. Hopefully I do something that makes sense.


    I want to thank everyone again for their advice 🙏🏻It really helped me to get a better understanding

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