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Tudor Revival- Keep, paint or change (kitchen)

16 days ago

Hi all!


I would love you input about our kitchen.

We removed a wall, the popcorn ceiling and ceiling fan (pictured). We will add a peninsula between the dining room and kitchen with (One? Two?) pendant light(s).


First: Cabinets: Leave them, paint them white, purchase new (white?) doors. Thoughts?


Next: Floor (see photo below of the burnt orange floor). We're unsure if we keep it, or choose something different. There is wooden floor throughout the entire first floor (pictured below).


Finally: Back splash.. what to do? You can see in the photo below what the current back splash is.


Any input, suggestion, or questions is welcomed. Thanks so much for taking the time to read through this!



Close up of the cabinets & backsplash:


Floors currently in the kitchen and another look at the cabinets:



Current state of the kitchen. Recessed lighting will be added. The peninsula and pendant light(s) will also be added:


Comments (20)

  • 16 days ago

    The cabinets are kind of meh, to me. I'd look at the price of painting them. How will adding the penisula go with the existing cabs and the floor? I kind of like the floor, but you'd have to work your colors around it.

    Liz Bar thanked Sigrid
  • 16 days ago

    to be realistic...I think the best plan is to replace everything. 1. floors- just way too characteristic of southwest and uncomfortable tile. very limiting...gotta get a new floor. . 2. counters AND backsplash...not much to say....just needs replacing .... 3. cabinets I like but for long term there are no drawers and you probably want to go to the ceiling and they have had their time. so thats a full replacement of everything. doing all this work anyway...get it right for the future so you dont have to come back feeling its not done . do you have a stove somewhere?

    Liz Bar thanked herbflavor
  • 15 days ago

    Take it all out, you want to get rid of the soffits and that is linoleum not tile, if I am not mistaken. Definitely start over.

    Liz Bar thanked katsamdave
  • 15 days ago

    Can you open the kitchen up to living room or dining room by knocking down a wall? Just an idea.

    Liz Bar thanked katsamdave
  • 15 days ago

    Get a kitchen designer to help you with a plan. Money well spent. You don't know what you don't know. Price too high to make mistakes

    Liz Bar thanked jck910
  • 15 days ago

    All depends on budget. I would keep cabinets if in good shape except remove the trim over window. Since you might not be able to match cabinets in island to the originals it could be painted as an accent. (Can you reuse cabinets removed with that wall?) Or you could use the cabinet frames and get all new doors to match then paint them and new island.

    Replace floor with stone look tile or vinyl because matching wood is tough. If you replace countertops, get backsplash to match. Floor and counters in a light warm stone look would work with the dark wood. Match a pendant light over sink to the ones over the island. The black appliances will stick out if you paint cabinets light.

    You could add a plate rail over cabinets on the soffit for display and storage of platters and trays.

    If this is your only wall of cabinets, you will need to get creative with storage like cup hooks under cabinets, hanging baskets ,etc.

    Liz Bar thanked kathleen MK
  • 15 days ago

    It’s easy for us to say change it all - we don’t have to pay for it. kathleen is correct, your budget will determine what you can do. If you are asking whether there’s anything worth saving, the answer is no. If you will need to do things in phases, do it once, do it right with the overall plan in mind. So, start with the floors and move your way up. Hardwood throughout is a great plan. If that means you can’t get new cabinets right now, that’s OK, but make sure you put hardwood under the cabinets so that if you decide to rearrange things later you won’t have to patch the floor. Good luck!

    Liz Bar thanked eam44
  • 15 days ago

    I agree with @jck910. You need a pro to help you plan this space. It’s important know what things will cost and discuss a way to do it in stages if the whole project is too expensive for now. Floors are first, but save enough for the space under the bottom cabinets if those get pulled out at a later date. Hardwood is best if you can afford it.

    Using the existing cabinets may not be feasible. Buying all new is challenging if you’ve never bought a kitchen before.

    The space is large and needs to feel like it belongs when it’s done. Without a professional to work with, this can be overwhelming. Many of us have huge “project regret” when we do something that wasn’t carefully thought out.

    Liz Bar thanked RedRyder
  • 15 days ago

    I really appreciate all of the suggestions from each of you. To answer some questions:

    The stove will go where the refrigerator currently is.

    I am not opposed to keeping the floor but I think if we're changing the cabinets, it may be best to change the floors as well.

    We can't knock down the wall between the kitchen and living room due to the basement stairs and pantry closet being there. The cabinets that were removed were kept so we can still put them back.

    We're also looking at new counters and potentially stainless steel appliances.

    All of the feedback and suggestions was really helpful. We're working with a GC and spoke with some designers.

  • 15 days ago

    Just my opinion but a GC is not a designer. They do what is easiest for them. Nail down a plan with with one of the designers you spoke with.

    Liz Bar thanked jck910
  • 15 days ago

    Have you looked under the current kitchen flooring to see if hardwood just happens to run under it? If the house is old, there may be a few layers of vinyl or real linoleum under the orange vinyl. Try looking under the sink, behind the fridge, in a pantry or closet. Also, sometimes there's a roll or two of old flooring in a basement or garage.

    Liz Bar thanked apple_pie_order
  • PRO
    14 days ago

    It was not a good idea to demo the kitchen without having a plan in place for the new one. To get the best advice, you should upload a floor plan with dimensions showing all windows, doors/doorways, and adjacent rooms. Unless of course your designer already did this, in which case, he or she can best advise you on your course of action.

  • PRO
    14 days ago

    Just another note--you have a lovely vintage home and it deserves a kitchen that blends with the period and style.

    I think something like these would look great:


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    Liz Bar thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • PRO
    14 days ago

    For a Tudor, the kitchen is decidedly safe and impersonal, 1985 style. That is 2 things to completely eradicate in your stewardship of the home. Any changes should celebrate the Tudorness of the home. Not saying to go crazy with beams and dark wood. But, beams and dark wood here and there, can be juxtaposed by white plaster and great lighting. And deep jewel tones.

    Liz Bar thanked Minardi
  • PRO
    14 days ago

    Here's another idea, this one with painted cabinets, but in keeping with the Tudor look:


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    MEDITERRANEAN WHOLE HOUSE RECONSTRUCTION · More Info


    MEDITERRANEAN WHOLE HOUSE RECONSTRUCTION · More Info


    Liz Bar thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • 13 days ago

    Here is floorplan to help.



  • 13 days ago

    Diana, do you know where that amazing kitchen is? I wanna buy the house it’s in! What a STUNNING kitchen!!

  • 13 days ago

    Your cabinets are perhaps a shade lighter than ours when we moved it. We could not handle the cave like kitchen for long. Paint would work but will be expensive. It's not a DIY if you want them to hold up. Also I agree about the wood grain. Some love the look, I do not. Raised panel doors were the height of kitchen fashion back in the day. They aren't any longer so any painting will not hide that. It's worth getting a few quotes for new and for painting see if the difference in price is worth the end product. I don't see real tile floors as a previous poster claimed. That appears to be sheet linoleum. Vinyl is a great floor in kitchens for many reasons but again the orange is just too dark. If they are tile I feel your pain removing then will be a job. Why people put products that are yes uncomfortable, acoustically horrid and unforgiving in areas where glass/ceramic live is beyond me!!! Your back splash would drive me crazy. Either the two inch raised back that matches the counter OR the tile, not both. Never both, please.

    Liz Bar thanked arcy_gw
  • PRO
    13 days ago

    @RedRyder, I think it's in Minneapolis. The house had an extensive fire, and this was the new kitchen. It really is fantastic!