I get .16 teasp. per gallon

That is very little product. If you consider that 1/4 teasp is . 25 teasp, you could use a 1/4 teasp measure and fill it up 2/3 of the way.

I wish every plant chemical product would just say how much you need per gallon! The worse are the ones that tell me how much to use per acre, lol!

I don’t remember chili thrips being a problem in either Dallas or Austin, just regular thrips. So it’s only a problem in Houston?

Good ole Ben! so you are smart in many areas. I am not surprised. yes it started at 2 oz per 100 gal or the acre thing. like many products that work it is intened for farmer or marijuana growners. The later is helping us get rid of bugs on our roses with the many products that help that industry. Or so ot seems

Guess a peck is too small? i have one of those King Aurther measuring units.

Chilies in Houston yes! attacking my Lady in Red, which you recomemded. i love her have 4.

Bed is just starting, hoping for best. kitchen window on house between post.

Trying to find a product in a different that is equally effective as Conserve but in a diffetent class to alternate.

Typo meant pinch not peck🤪

I think Lady in Red will look great on that trellis. Looks like you already have drip irrigation and most of the bed worked out. I went to Regan last week and they had mature plants of Florentina , Lady in Red, and Red Eden…I still think Lady in Red provides the best display. I was going to ask why you weren’t using a Spinosad product, but looks like you already have Conserve. I read XXpire also treats spider mites so that’s a big bonus. I agree, we do have the marijuana industry to thank for making some of these products available to us, I just hope their customers don’t get too high and crash their car into me, otherwise I’m very much live and let live.

Google said pinch is 1/16 teasp more or less maybe I can work off that or a slight 1/4 may be best… such a hassle. Where is Rosemania when we need them?? they always had it broken down

In that case 3 pinches would be very close, or as you said slightly less than 1/4 teasp.

By the way, all my friends in Plano / Frisco area say the large plantings of RRD infested Knock Outs have mostly died out, and they can relatively safely plant roses again! They only need to worry about blackspot, aphids, cucumber beetles, spider mites, botrytis, grasshoppers etc.

I have 1 lb of XXpire at $350. At 2 pinches a gal I can treat the entire US. Rose and marijuana growers alike.

Smallest I could buy

3 pinches not 2

Yes 3 pinches. $350 is pricey, but you would be a superhero if you rid the country of chili thrips!

I’ve never understood why good products for farmers are not available in small quantities.

I actually have two products that could easily be useful to at least half of the rose growers in Ohio! :)

If it's a solid? I'm guessing since pinches are mentioned. But .08 oz for three gallons would be .76 grams for 1 gallon. Use a scale that measures in grams. Using a spoon or measure sounds handy, but the volume can be off when converting. .76 grams of powder will take up a different amount of volume in a measure than .76 grams of a granular product.

The funny thing is, I actually bought a jewelry scale just for this—I don’t weigh gold or diamonds, just tiny doses of fungicide or insecticide for my roses. Everything gets measured in grams like I’m running a botanical pharmacy!

Beesneeds I was aware it would not be exact and because I have no way to do gram measurements I will do a guesstament of 3 pinches, as Ben suggested. That is in line with a grandular fungicide I have used. Thank you for input hope the product is worth all this brain damage.

FYI: AI was no help… thought it was the end all of information😖 it just complained about

how I was asking question. Seemed to want me to ask in a way it could pull up a response. Guess humans are not obsolete yet. 😍

@elenazone6, may I

ask the names of those two products?

Austin, here is AI generated answer on your question.

🧪 Goal:

You’re converting 0.08 oz of XXpire WG (dry granular) meant for 3 gallons into a practical dose for 1 gallon of water, using kitchen-style measuring tools.

🔢 Step-by-step conversion:

🔸 1. From ounces to teaspoons (dry measure)

• 1 dry ounce ≈ 6 teaspoons

• 0.08 oz × 6 = 0.48 teaspoons for 3 gallons

• Divide by 3:

0.48 ÷ 3 = 0.16 teaspoons per gallon

👉 This is a scant 1/6 teaspoon

Which is also:

• Slightly more than 1 pinch (a pinch = ~0.125 tsp)

• About 2/3 of a 1/4 teaspoon

🟩 Garden-friendly estimate: If you don’t have small spoons, use 1 small pinch with a light hand — or barely fill a 1/4 tsp spoon.

🔸 2. From ounces to grams

• 1 oz = 28.35 grams → 0.08 oz = 2.27 grams

• Divide by 3:

2.27 ÷ 3 = 0.76 grams per gallon

👉 Use ~0.75 grams per gallon if using a digital (jewelry) scale.

✅ Final answer summary (for 1 gallon sprayer):

Use ~0.16 teaspoons, or ~0.75 grams, or 1 rounded pinch of XXpire WG per gallon of water.

My scale: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DJBDL6L?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_3&th=1

Elena, I haven't bought that particular brand of pocket scale, but I've bought several similar and they've been extremely accurate. That was exactly the type I had in mind in my post... and you can't beat the price :-D

One additional comment if y'all can bear it about counting drops for precise dilution. If you buy a pack of disposable plactic droppers (highly recommended) and use a particular liquid product frequently, you can actually figure out how many drops there are in a milliliter or fraction of a teaspoon. Pick a known volume (like a 1/4 teaspoon), draw some liquid into the dropper, and count the drops to fill it. Then by dividing, you can know how many drops is a tiny fraction of a teaspoon of that product.

Susan, here are my droppers. :)

FYI: According to Dow -XXpire …the amount for 1 gal should be 3/16 or 3 pinches as Ben said. They gave and amount as betw .07 and .9

Thank you folks!!

Elena, those were my standard plastic droppers that I bought in boxes of 500 for >30 years from my regular science supplier. I also bought ones with tiny tips for specific uses. Again, you can't beat the price!

Austin, my only concern is that there is a more than 10X difference in magnitude between 0.07 and 0.9 (sorry I don't know the units you're using). Hence my recommendation of using drops or a small gram scale for better accuracy. It's really not as scary as it sounds, but do what you feel comfortable with :-D