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What Is A "Timeless Kitchen"?

11 days ago
last modified: 9 days ago

It must be the most common aspiration on KF. The Timeless Kitchen. Everyone wants it. Everyone uses the term. We all know what it is. Or do we? The more I try to understand it, the more confused I get.

I thought we might try to settle on an agreed meaning of "timeless kitchen" and have some fun posting images to illustrate our conception of what a timeless kitchen may be.

Here are three EDIT: four proposed meanings for the term. Do you agree with any, why/why not, and if you do, maybe post an inspo or two showing what you mean by it?

The poetic meaning is an ageless kitchen immune from the ravages of time. Kind of like the Catherine Deneuve of kitchens. I think this can potentially include almost any kitchen style, because if the house has a distinct style a kitchen in that same style will forever be in harmony with the house. The difficulty is when the house has no distinct style for the kitchen to harmonize with. The dreaded "Tuscan" kitchens of the '90s are demolition-worthy today because they were a passing fad shoe-horned into bland tract houses; in an actual villa in Tuscany, a real Tuscan kitchen always looks great.

The practical meaning is a kitchen that will remain "in style" or at least resist falling badly "out of style". "Resale" or "forever house" often get mentioned here. Of course, in most cases, a kitchen only needs to remain timeless so for 10 to 15 years, until the next move, the next reno, or the inevitable downsizing or elder community or simply reaching-a-state-of-no-longer-caring come calling. Since kitchen trends change slowly, most any look that is currently in the mainstream of style, neither edgy nor idiosyncratic, should work . . . maybe we should call it the "fifteen-year kitchen"?

The prescriptive meaning is a collection of elements that are thought to be "enduring" but not trendy, that have been common and desirable in kitchens for many decades. Shaker cabinets are usually suggested; now that MCM is cool designers are claiming that sleek slab doors have been around forever too (untrue). Painted in muted tones, or a simple, neutral clear wood finish. Perhaps a simply colored, minimally figured counter like soapstone or marble, or marble's low-maintenance cousin quartzite, rather than the trendy stone of the moment. Often simple silver chrome fixtures, plain pulls. Frequently a hardwood floor flowing from adjacent spaces or a simple, perhaps a bit vintage-ish, tile pattern.

EDIT: The literal “One True Kitchen” (OTK) meaning is white shaker, black/white counter, white subways, stainless appliances, island, and you look like Diane Keaton - straight out of 2003’s “Something’s Gotta Give”. I’ve added this slightly tongue-in-cheek but this meaning does exist. Thanks Mrs. Pete!

Comments (35)

  • 11 days ago
    last modified: 11 days ago

    I like your poetic definition, but I suspect the practical and prescriptive meanings are usually what people are after. Do ”timeless” kitchens share common features, or do they share an absence of features that emerged during fads? Once something becomes a Pavlovian response here in the kitchen design threads, I start wondering how many years before it’s labeled as dated. Like the backsplash tile-to-the ceiling trend from a few years ago, and today’s cabinets-to-the-ceiling advice.

    Here’s a kitchen that fits my mind’s idea of timeless, though maybe it’s just old-fashioned.

    Herring Creek Farmhouse · More Info


  • 11 days ago
    last modified: 11 days ago

    IMO (for whatever it's worth), one mark of a timeless kitchen is a functional layout. All the beauty in the world can't make up for a bad work flow, if it's a kitchen that's actually used for cooking.


    Back on the old Garden Web kitchens forum, I'd sometimes see posts referring to the OTK, or One True Kitchen. IIRC, people were often referencing the kitchen in the movie Something's Gotta Give. It looks very much like the one posted by petula above. However I remember reading that the counters were actually plywood painted to look like soapstone.



  • 11 days ago

    Maybe the phrase is passed its time. materials are so varied … options abound for the surfaces…timeless has to mean adaptable to evolving function in how we obtain /store /and prepare /and serve. groups of people live and do things in many varied ways . multiple cooks… studio living .. multi family …multi generations… you could say my granny's kitchen was timeless but id never construct that kitchen … not even close …and it was large and she cooked all the time.

  • 11 days ago

    I don't think there is one. I think it's just one of those things that people say, not really understanding that there is no such animal.


    You can't stop time, and it's pretty darn impossible to design a kitchen that is undatable in some way.

  • 11 days ago

    When OPs ask for timeless I think what they mean is what will be the least offensive and most liked by the greatest number of people within 10 - 15 years. What are the lowest common denominators that somewhat defy fads.










  • 11 days ago
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    I don't know that there really is a kitchen that is "timeless". Every generation seems to want to express themselves through fashion and interior design. Whatever their mother or grandmother had is now somehow wrong, old fashioned, out of date.

    We either have to stop having children or we need to be like the Amish with societal rules that discourage individuality and change.


    BTW - I hate shaker cabinets. When I look at them I think of the Amish farmhouses that have had shaker style cabinets for the past 100 years.

  • 11 days ago
    last modified: 11 days ago

    "Timeless" is the name of a super-trend: White Shaker cabinets + black or white counter tops + white subway tile backsplash. Hardwood floors, possibly a few glass-front cabinet doors, preferably an island.

  • 11 days ago
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    So true @Mrs Pete. When I think of the most "timeless" kitchen I have ever had my mind goes to a rental apartment in Chicago circa 2007 with white shaker cabinets, black granite counters, and white subway backsplash. It had hardwood floors. When you say it is a super-trend, do you mean that there is a trend called timeless and this is what it looks like? So when OPs ask for timeless they mean exactly this?

  • 11 days ago

    I think Mrs. Pete describes what people consider the "timeless kitchen", but that really does not look good in a lot of houses. It's too white and too much for many styles of houses.

  • 10 days ago
    last modified: 10 days ago

    I thought about what I visualize to the phrase "timeless kitchen", and what pops up is something like: cabinets that are a touch old-fashioned, simple, and anonymous; light to medium tones in quiet colors; counters with no hint of bling; enough detail work, maybe in splash, to suggest craft, and enough personal decor to suggest taste; traditional fixtures; usually hardwood or tile; the whole thing having a comfortable but subtly expensive look.

    The OTK/White Kitchen is in that universe of looks - a bit loud, but just makes it in. Kendrah's Least Offensive is also in there, if done well. As are many other kitchens, some superlative and some yawners.

    Cynically, I sometimes think "timeless" is code for I have little design sense, lack confidence in my own taste, don't know what I want, and am scared because a kitchen reno is a big and costly task. EDIT: and my house has no particular style/identity.

  • 10 days ago

    It seems to me that "timeless" is entirely dependent on the era of the house. What looks timeless in an 1800's farmhouse is far different than a 1980's split level home. I suspect with a talented designer and a healthy budget both can be achieved but neither kitchen will resemble the other in the least. I admire kitchens of different styles on Houzz and sense that the timeless kitchens are almost always expensive (although expensive kitchens are often anything but timeless).

  • 10 days ago

    @John Lui, you've seen my kitchen, and rather than timeless, I would say it's more "of it's time" for my house, without being a slavish imitation or a pastiche, while being the antithesis of the white "timeless" kitchen (which would look silly in my house)--do you agree. My cabinet makers, who do full custom said they really enjoyed building it, despite being small and inexpensive compared to their usual projects, because it wasn't one of their standard variations. They don't do "standard" but end up doing similar things at similar times because that's what most people want.

  • 10 days ago

    I have yet to understand what designers intend by any of these phrases:

    "This makes a statement."

    "Maintains the integrity of the home." (in a builder-grade spec home)

    "Open concept"

    "I would never whitewash real brick." vs "It looks so much better with the red brick whitewashed."

    Any style with the word "modern" in it: Modern farmhouse, Modern mid-century, 80's with a Modern twist, Modern organic, Modern traditional, ...


    I remodeled my 80's builder-grade kitchen in 2012. I replaced the orange red oak stained cabinets with white painted cabinets. I replaced the appliances with stainless. I removed the dropped ceiling and replaced the fluorescent lighting with dimmable recessed ceiling lights. I chose a Taj-Mahal-ish quartzite for the countertops, with Pratt & Larson crackled ceramic 4x4-inch almond-colored tiles on the diagonal for the backsplash. I put in a Shaw farmhouse sink.


    If 15-years is the definition of timeless, I have 2 more years to enjoy my "timeless kitchen." Or, I can give a name, I'm thinking "Modern Farmhouse" -- I just need to change the crystal chandelier over the kitchen table.

  • 10 days ago
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    Aren’t there are few aspects to kitchen design, that can influence whether we think it is ”timeless”? I’m thinking of, a surface structure in the middle, unattached to walls. Historically it was a table, then nothing (the perimetr cabinets moved closer together and that other surface moved out of the work area), then an island, and now the table is back, supposedly.

    For the longest time, the separate-entities kitchen was the way to go, sometimes uemulated as ”unfitted, timeless” and to my mind, not conductive to much. Sink over here, range over there, refrigerator near the back door for the ice man, and lots of doors inbetween. Come to think of it, I see that a lot now, except that those things are contained in base cabinets instead of freestanding, but still on perpendicular walls separatedmby doors.

    And other such layout issues, related largely to appliances and storage.

    Then there’s materials, construction, and colors.

  • 10 days ago
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    I'd go with the Prescriptive meaning. I think 10-15 years is too short to feel timeless. We lived in our 1st house 11 years. There is no way I would want to redo my kitchen there due to it feeling outdated. We lived in our 2nd house 9.5 years and the kitchen was an outdated 1994 kitchen the whole time. I feel a timeless kitchen is one that can always look nice despite what the current trends are. Timeless cabinets are a style and color that can suit decades by simply changing the paint on the walls and the handles to give it a new feel if desired. For me that means white shaker cabinets, or a not-too-detailed 5-piece door style. Even a raised panel door can be fine in white for the long haul, if the surroundings get updated.

    For example, white quartz with grey veining is overdone. I think it'll be a fad. Everywhere shows green subway tile which warns me of a future fad. At least tile can be easily changed though! I have no problem with a fun tile that is trendy until it's not, for that reason. But...remodeling a kitchen every 20 years is out of my price range and a headache I wouldn't want. No matter the decor in the rest of my house over the years, white cabinets will go with them. I do like a wood stained island or different color island with a white perimeter, but already a blue island says fad to me. I plan to do a stained island some year when we do our kitchen, but at least I can paint it in 25 years if I dislike it.

    It's the copycat mentality that really makes something a fad.

  • 10 days ago
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    I did a low cost hold me over makeover that is the exact opposite of the SGTG kitchen 20 years ago, that even though I am tired of it, still gets raves when ever some one sees it for the first time. I think timeless includes functioning well kept cabinets and counters but really what has kept my kitchen seeming fresh and still appreciated is that the appliances are all keep up to date. More than your cabinet and counter colors, appliances effect your kitchen’s acceptance most.

  • 10 days ago

    "Maintains the integrity of the home." (in a builder-grade spec home)

    I don't think this means that if you own a house that has an early 1970s kitchen with MDF doors and a Walnut vinyl vacuum formed surface and a prefabricated laminate countertop and sheet vinyl floors that you have to duplicate this.

    It just means that a bright white shaker door with polished nickel faucet and hardware and marble counters and subway tile backsplash, and french oak wide planked floors, as beautiful as all that might be is going to look like it belongs in your house. (Unless you renovate everything in the house to match).

    But you certainly could do a simple stained wood, or painted color that sort of references the period (like green) and a plainer speckled style quartz and simple hardware--something that references the general era of the house and acknowledges that it is not a 4000 sq foot house with 10 ft ceilings.

  • 10 days ago
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    This kitchen was built in 1960, and looks the same as it did then. (Fridge is off to the left.)


    https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/176/bigphoto/843/10072843_7_0.jpg

  • 10 days ago

    palimpsest, your kitchen has style and function, looks perfect for your house and usage! (I went back and looked at pics.)

  • 9 days ago

    When you say it is a super-trend, do you mean that there is a trend called timeless and this is what it looks like? So when OPs ask for timeless they mean exactly this?

    I mean

    - The white Shaker cabinets, etc. are a trend with huge sticking power. Think the harvest gold and avocado green of the late 60s/70s, which lasted and lasted -- as opposed to Tuscan kitchens or pink & country blue with geese, which were A Very Big Thing but short-lived.

    - The NAME of this white Shakers + subways, etc. is "Timeless".

    - People ask for something that won't look "dated", and they talk about the "Timeless" as if it will never look like it's from the 2010-2020s. But that's not really true.

    I think Mrs. Pete describes what people consider the "timeless kitchen", but that really does not look good in a lot of houses. It's too white and too much for many styles of houses.

    True. If your house suggests a certain time period, THAT is what is most appropriate.

  • 9 days ago

    Thanks, mp! I’ve edited the OP.

  • 9 days ago

    When visiting Williamsburg Virginia, I got inspiration for a “timeless” gray kitchen. I had my kitchen renovated several years ago, and am quite happy with it.

  • 9 days ago
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    I think every house suggests a certain time period, it's just a matter of whether you accept that time period as "legitimate" or not. And even within design vocabularies in that time period, there are variations.

    A contemporary house (c. 1975) came on the market here recently, and it is pure contemporary: vaulted living room with overhanging loft, mirrored walls, greenhouse style ceiling, fireplace with the large diameter circular internal flue and so forth and the house has had a number of contemporary updates over the years, but they are all a bit too slick for the original house which has a kind of organic contemporary quality to it.

    This is a circa late-90s to 2000-ish Italian kitchen: it might be Snaidero, but I am not sure.It's definitely contemporary. I have always kind of admired how they looked in the ads, usually isolated in a blackout kind of scenario, but I could never figure out exactly what sort of house they went in in the US, anyway, outside of something in the style of Myron Goldfinger or Richard Meier. ( In Italy I kind of picture them inserted into a baroque palazzo or something).

    In any case, it doesn't sit very well in the house it's in, in my opinion--as well as feeling that the backsplash especially, and the countertops are missteps. And the color. I just don't think this is a great color for a kitchen or for lacquer. Layout and so forth are pretty irrelevant in overall design discussion because in the urban environment, the tight galley kitchen was the default space allotment for kitchens, with little real opportunity to expand it.


  • 8 days ago

    Dang. I like that. Not sure I’m personally stylish enough to inhabit such a space, but if I were I would.

  • 8 days ago

    These kitchens definitely have the right place, but the sort of house these sit well in seems very limited. Something by Myron Goldfinger

    or Irving Tobocman, maybe


    Or an industrial loft space.

  • 8 days ago

    One of the negatives about trying to achieve "timeless" in the way that it seems to be interpreted, in my mind as "near universal appeal over time in a certain socioeconomic bracket", is a lack of individuality and personal identity. Many many strong designs are far from timeless or universal in appeal, yet are perennially "good", at least to the people who appreciate them. Design that is appreciated by nearly everyone is usually kind of diluted. That's not necessarily a bad thing. But not everything needs to be a man's white button down shirt.

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  • 6 days ago
    last modified: 6 days ago

    I think what is timeless is when the kitchen is cohesive with the rest of the house, whatever that may be and whether it's new or old -- the kitchen looks like it belongs in the house in which it resides. If the kitchen design fits the whole of the house, it will never look out of place. This is so basic and simple but something that so many people completely disregard because they want what's trending, get talked into the latest trend by a designer-in-a-box, or saw some inspo pics they like and try to shoehorn a style into their house that just doesn't jibe. A quaint, eclectic vintage-style kitchen looks ridiculous in a contemporary house, and vice-versa.

    Here is an example of what I mean. In the right house the kitchen might look just fine, but IMO this is an egregious design choice for this house:



  • 6 days ago

    Boy, that is horrid.


    Can’t blame that on the designer. That is an owner who doesn’t care or see.

  • 6 days ago

    I don't think it will be any one kitchen, or choice, other than something that looks like it belongs in the house.

  • 6 days ago
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    "Boy, that is horrid. Can’t blame that on the designer. That is an owner who doesn’t care or see."

    Yet someone else made the same shockingly bad choice:



    I'm sure there's at least a million and two more examples of this sort of thing, across all styles of house..

    So I guess I'm in agreement with your poetic meaning of the word timeless: "I think this can potentially include almost any kitchen style, because if the house has a distinct style a kitchen in that same style will forever be in harmony with the house."

  • 5 days ago

    The reality is that any new kitchen that goes into a house that is "dated" (IOW has a strong character of its period) will have to be "dated " to some extent, to fit in.

  • 5 days ago

    I think region plays a part too, speaking as someone who's moved around the country several times. Mediterranean style might be passé, but still appropriate for a house in southern California or Florida. Same with a heavy Mission or Arts & Crafts style kitchen -- wouldn't look right in Savannah, but suits Minneapolis well.

    This is "kitchen needs to suit the house style," with the added contention that the house needs to suit the region. Mediterranean villas & their appropriate Tuscan kitchens just don't look right in New England.

  • 5 days ago

    Stop it, porkchop - I can’t see any more super cool woodsy cabins defiled by on-sale-at-Home-Depot McMelamin McKitchens.

  • 5 days ago

    "Stop it, porkchop - I can’t see any more super cool woodsy cabins defiled by on-sale-at-Home-Depot McMelamin McKitchens."

    LOL! Defiled is right. I mean....if they painted them green at least they'd be in keeping with the woodsy theme....

    This is "kitchen needs to suit the house style," with the added contention that the house needs to suit the region.

    Definitely.

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