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Countertop measure problem and a 1/4" gap - possible fixes?

last year
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EDIT: they were able to wiggle the cabinets and make everything fit without compromosing the range clearance! all fixed. Here is the finished product




In the absolute comedy of errors that is my kitchen remodel, *of course* something went wrong with the countertop and backsplash installation.

Long story short: Cabinet guys installed cabinets with a 29 3/4" space for the range. Countertop measure/template guy pointed this out during his measurement and said 30" was recommended to cabinet guys. Cabinet guys move the cabinets over 1/4" as recommended to provide 30" space. Countertop measure guy does not retake the measurement. I sign off on the template with a 29 3/4" instead of doing the proper due diligence of verifying every single measurement on the template. Countertop installation came by yesterday and notified us of the error, pointing out that it is short by 1/4", leaving a gap on the upper cabinet under range hood and next to the pantry cabinet.

Countertop company is checking to see if they have a large enough remnant to remake the backsplash, but it won't be possible to match the alignment and veining of the original template. If they don't have a large enough remnant, I have to deal with a gap, or fill it in somehow.

My ideas:

  1. Remake the backsplash with a remnant. Expensive if possible. Hopefully the countertop company and contractor will be willing to chip in on this since it is their combined error (and mine) that leads to this situation.
  2. Fill in the 1/4" gap with a 1/4" strip of the countertop material. Probably an eyesore unless really well done.
  3. Move the left cabinets over 1/4", reducing the space for the range to 29 3/4". That is the exact width of the range, so it may work, but it will also eliminate many other ranges from consideration in the future if I need to replace.
  4. Move both left-and-right cabinets over 1/8" so that the gap is symmetrical, and fill in somehow. However, this would create more gaps where the overhang meets the wall, and it would be a huge pain in the ass (the other cabinet side is plumbed, attached to the floor, and has a big overhang for seating on the installed countertops)
  5. Ask for a refund on the backsplash and do tile or a different, non-matching stone. This would make me sad- I'm very excited for the countersplash look - and it may not even be particularly cheap since tile labor rates are pretty high.

What do y'all think?

Photo tax: The counters are leathered Fantasy Macaubas on IKEA Axstad Blue, and I'm really thrilled with them.









Comments (13)

  • last year

    6. Alter the space-time continuum and get a whoopsie re-do measure.

    I’d choose 6, but as that might be tough to pull off, let them see what they can accomplish with option 2.

  • last year

    That counter is gorgeous!

    Question: is it just the piece of counter to the left of the range that is too short? The backsplash piece is the right size?

    I'm wondering if you can keep the extra gap space where the range is, center the range in the space, and use stainless filler strips next to the range to cover any gap between the range and the counter. (There are several options on Amazon.) Not sure that's the look you want but it would keep things from falling / dripping down the sides of the range.

    Otherwise, if I understand correctly, the gap will be next to the tall cabinets on the left? I don't think anyone but you will notice a 1/4" gap except you. I believe you could use silicone to fill it; hopefully a pro will chime in.

    I do know that I'd be loathe to ditch the beautiful stone and do another backsplash.

  • PRO
    last year

    I think I'm missing it. Where in the pics is the part with the 1/4" issue?

  • last year

    @eam44 If I had a time machine, there's a million things I'd do differently about this project! :D


    @chicagoans Unfortunately, the backsplash is the wrong size. Here's a full pic of the problem area:




    The left countertop is fine. The backsplash gap would be on the left pantry cabinet and the left upper cabinet. There's another problem with the countertop installation and a 1/4" gap, but it should be more straightforward to resolve, and the 1/4" gap is very noticeable and looks pretty bad. Still, 1/4" of a reasonable filler may be the least bad option here.

  • last year
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    Sometimes people use Schluter type trim as a decorative accent with tiles/etc. - however, I feel like unless you can match some type of strip to the background color of your slab, it will just bring attention to the area (well, at least it will draw your attention to it every time you enter the kitchen).

    Option 2 seems like the best idea - If they can do a piece that blends well. I just can't imagine how the fabricator could make 1/4" piece that will blend in well - but maybe I'm wrong.

    If they can't, I wonder if you could take a piece of Schluter type trim and after it's installed, have it painted to match the part of the slab next to it? Does the edge have a lot of veining or is it more of the background color of the slab? Obviously, it will be more difficult to paint if a dramatic vein area is on the edge of the slab where it's 1/4" short.

    Personally, I feel like it's the countertop person's error - he is the one who pointed out that the opening should be 30" and had cabinets guys change it. He should have corrected his template.

    Q for everyone - do homeowners typically verify EVERY dimension/measurement taken by the fabricator???!! My fabricator was here recently to take measurements for a few different things - and he did not make me sign anything about the measurements being correct.

    It seems like the fabricator is trying to push his/her responsibility off on the client (you).

    There are contracts where one party drafts language that requires the other party to indemnify the first party for its negligence in performing the contract - and many states restrict or prohibit that type of clause (especially in construction contracts).

    This would be what happened in your situation - it was the negligence of the fabricator - and the fabricator had you sign something that protects them from being negligent re: measurements - which is part of what you are paying the fabricator to do = take accurate measurements in order to fabricate you countertop/backsplash correctly.

    It really depends on where your reside and how the state has decided to address the above issue. In my jurisdiction, the fabricator would be responsible to fix this issue.

  • last year
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    This may be more work than you want for 1/4"

    You COULD move the pantry cabinet and the upper cabinet over 1/4" and scribe a filler piece to the left of the pantry cab. If they are hung on the IKEA rail system, it's fairly straightforward. If they are screwed into the wall using the hanging holes, sometimes there's at least 1/8" of play you can wedge it over.

    If you can cover 1/2 the distance with the 1/8" push - maybe that works?

    Your counter is GORGEOUS with those cabinets. I would try to use the pieces that you have to ensure they match and do the least disruptive thing. My fear would be the cure being worse than the disease.


    ETA - @dani_m08 - totally agree - professionals have the duty of care to do their dang jobs. You hire and pay for experts. Sadly - you "need" to double check everything, but that does not mean you SHOULD have to, or that it's required.

  • last year

    Personally, I'd use stainless for the backsplash behind the range (that is the area we are talking about, right?) as it will blend well with the hood and range, look intentional, avoid issues with stone staining and heat effects. And get you past this irritating snag, which I don't think is really your fault.

  • PRO
    last year

    Add a scribe molding that matches the cabinets and move on. 1/4" isn't even visible.

  • PRO
    last year

    "It seems like the fabricator is trying to push his/her responsibility off on the client (you)."


    I agree and it's bull$#!t. You hire a professional countertop company to do professional work which includes verifying the site conditions. Imagine your surgeon asking you to verify that the screws he's about to put in your bones are genuine titanium. Same thing.

  • PRO
    last year
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    IMO trying to jam in a 1/4" piece in the hope it matches would be a huge issue since if no match would be worse I am having a bit of difficulty understanding exactly where this gap is so maybe a closse up of the space and a red circle on the pic.

  • last year

    So glad it worked out! Congrats - it's beautiful!

  • last year

    Yay!

  • last year

    Excellent!!! Such a stunning slab material.

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