Can you explore frameless for the pantry and coffee bar with your cabinetmaker or with another one. Inset and overlay reduce space and function. Especially for the preferred wide drawer base cabinets.

Go with frameless full overlay cabinets with full depth finished end panels, that cover the exposed door/drawers edges.

Do NOT do this. Be consisistent. Do NOT do a Classic SZ either. Or the silly hidden pantry that is already way past dated. You are trying for "1 from each" of a category of pinterest things that just do not go together and waste a ton of money. Function first. Everything on your list is dysfunctional, and not even that cool.

Don't move the ovens to the location in your second layout (#2). It's not a good idea to put an oven (or range) right next to a door/doorway. If someone is coming through the doorway, they may not see an open oven door until they get through the doorway and run into it if it's right next to the doorway. Having it inside the Kitchen a bit like in your original layout (#1) gives someone time to "register" that there's an open oven door and stop b/f running into it. This is especially true if someone will be turning a corner when going through a doorway (e.g., a hall where the door is along the hall wall).

I don't have an opinion on the mixing overlay & inset question since I can't see it in-person to see what it really looks like (not just a mock-up). I'll defer to the KDs since they may have seen the combination in-person.

I assume you are doing full-overlay (that's what it looks like in your pictures).

STOP. Get a Kichen Designer, not a cabinet seller who will say yes to all these ideas that simply do not work.

Doors for things that just get left open is a waste of money and effort both. Pantries stay open. So do coffee areas. No one ever shuts the doors on either, unless you have visitors. Better to have a pocket door for the pantry, and put your coffee pot in there. The rest is pretty stock unimaginative 300K kitchen overdone as well. At at that level, you should at least be doing SZ Designer columns, or a walk in fridge. With a much bigger range. Not rangetop.

Appreciate the feedback. We have a 48” range (not sure it makes sense to go much bigger!?). We did a range top because we wanted to do wall oven/Steam oven instead. What is wrong with doing a classic subzero? Makes sense on the pantry door. I do like the idea but it will be open. So reconsidering based on all the is feedback. Don’t think we have room for picket door at this point. Would you not put a door? Or put a regular door?

Classic is fine if you want the metal fronts, or do not try to do flush inset. Classic SZ have a metal frame, and GAPS. What you want is the Designer, fully integrated model.

a coffee bar with sliding cabinet doors, and on the far right, a hidden pantry door that looks like a cabinet

Quite a lot of extra expense with the only accomplishment being to make the kitchen less functional.

People can be so rigid. You will not necessarily even notice the two different kinds of cabinetry in the space once you are done. Architectural restorations occasionally mix inset and full overlay if they have to in order to retain some original cabinetry, but they generally tend to keep inset cabinetry to the uppers and overlay to the lowers. Would I mix these on purpose? Probably not. But inset cabinetry is expensive enough to blow your cabinet budget out of the water. You do you, and best of luck.

I love mixing inset and frameless....said it before..."Best of both worlds". But agree...bases should be frameless for the bigger drawers.

I am assuming you mean a pocket door for the coffee bar ( yes it will be inset style no matter what the rest of the kitchen is). For the hidden pantry - is the door swinging in as a single door or would you do double inswing doors? For outswing, they can look just like full overlay doors. In swing will look like inset. If you are going to inswing , then I would not match the other pantry in styling since it would be a full overlay - simplify to just doors.

On a side note, can you change the configuration on that wall? Not a fan of the coffee shoved in the corner. That should be a pantry, then the wall ovens, then the ref, coffee and then the last pantry. At least that is how I would do it unless the entry to the hidden pantry can be moved.

Good luck!

100K of waste shown in that design. Its just not a good design.

Halve the whole thing in two. The wall of tall is oppressive and dwarfs the whole kitchen. I’m not big on symmetry, but the out of balance range location is a bad brain itch that would forever be bothersome. The whole thing would work better as a L plus island. Probably incorporating the pantry too. Then the island and walkways wouldn't feel so slighted as an afterthought.