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Master bathroom HELP. I want to update.

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Hello! I always appreciate the inspiration and creative solutions posted on Design Dilemma. My husband and I would like to update our master bathroom and need help!


Our master bedroom and both walk-in closets have wall-to-wall carpeting. The master bathroom with double sink and jacuzzi tub is also fully carpeted. The toilet/shower area has heated, tiled floors.


The distance from the master bedroom to the bathroom is just a few steps and runs in front of my walk-in closet. There is not a doorway from the closet to the bathroom. We want to tile the bathroom floor and are uncertain where the transition should be?


The jacuzzi tub has been used only once since we moved into our house in 2020. We have discussed: a) leave the jacuzzi tub, b) replace it with a smaller tub, or c) remove it entirely. If the latter, perhaps we could use our exercise bike in the space. Which option do you think is best for a home's marketability?


On the wall directly above the jacuzzi tub is an etched glass panel. The panel diffuses the light between the bathroom and the bedroom. The glass panel design is outdated, and we want to remove it and cover with sheetrock.


The bathroom countertops, vanity, and fixtures are all in good condition. We won't be replacing them, but would love your comments regarding color/style of new tile.


Master bedroom:


One of the walk-in closets:


Walkway from master bedroom to bathroom:


Master bathroom:


Etched glass panel above jacuzzi:


Toilet/shower area:


Thank you in advance!


~Laurie

Comments (33)

  • PRO
    last month

    What's under the carpeting? existing tile? subfloor? Do you have a large budget? You asked about the home's marketability, how long do you plan on staying in the house? Not sure what is the norm in your area, but in many areas of the US, bathrooms the age/style of yours will probably be replaced by new owners, so do what works for you, not for future unknown buyers.

    If you remove or replace the jacuzzi tub, you are opening a can of worms. The existing tile and/or plumbing could be damaged, and could lead to a larger project. Unless you are gutting the entire bathroom, I'd leave the jacuzzi as is.

    If you're just asking about tile, you might want a large gray tile to go with the color of the tile around the tub.




    Laurie Fryett thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
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    Consider stopping the tile at the bath doorway, and as previously mentioned match floor tile to tub surround.

    Laurie Fryett thanked Valinta
  • PRO
    last month

    Update ????? WOW rip out the carpet for sure nothing grosser IMO than a carpet in a bathroom, yuck. You need to tell us what you would want if possible and some clue as to budget . A bathroom and kitchen are the 2 items future buyers look at first since both are expensive to redo. Are you planning on selling soon ? The market is finicky but wall to carpet is IMO the first thing to get rid of everywhere . You need to share a lot more about what you want and if sell is in the near furture I honestly would just have it cleaned and cleaned again and be done . The bathroom IMO either needs a total redo or just leave it for selling now. If you are staying for the foreseeable future you do what you want in the space . I see wainscoting on some walls not on others I need more info .

    Laurie Fryett thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
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    Tile is a pretty 'forever' product. (assuming that word exists in our throw away world!) It's been said the more individual one gets the faster one tires of it. For these reasons I would go fairly neutral, to carry it over the long haul. Are you sure the gray tile in the thrown room is not under the carpet by the tub? Given how much of that there already is if I couldn't match it I might look for a linoleum to bridge the gap. Jacuzzi tubs are one of those things people think they want but then quickly realize they are more work/effort/water/cleaning than they are worth. I would remove it. Not sure I think an exercise bike belongs in that space but.... You said nothing about a shower. Where is that in relation to the tub? The idea of a closet and bathroom being linked is just not a great one. Why would anyone want that moisture in their clothes??? I know it's all the rage but wait a minute and we will be getting mold reports to be sure.

    Laurie Fryett thanked arcy_gw
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    since you plan to salvage things, I would start by removing the carpet. All the carpet except the bedroom area itself. (You need a place to sleep comfortably while the reno is in progress.)

    Unless you have another bedroom to use, then remove all the carpet.

    See what you are working with, a subfloor? particle board, plywood? Even when salvaging fixtures, the floor should come up, new flooring installed, then fixtures installed properly.

    Laurie Fryett thanked Lyn Nielson
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    Thank you everyone for your feedback!


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    Diana,


    Thanks for your response. To answer your questions-

    Subfloor is underneath the carpeting

    Our budget is $5 to $7 K

    We hope to stay in our home for the next five to ten years


    I really like the large gray tiles in the picture you sent. Almost all the existing tile (around the tub, on the floor in room with toilet, in the shower) is a gray-ish blue - I am not crazy about the color. The shower floor tile needs to be replaced.


    Since our budget is small, it makes sense to leave the jacuzzi.

    Perhaps we should focus on removing carpeting in bathroom, putting in new tile in the bathoom and in the toilet/shower area so it all matches.


    Picture of the toilet/shower area. Sorry I didn't include this in my original post!




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    Hi Valinta,


    I like your idea to stop the tile at the bath doorway. Because of where the walls end, it will need to be at an angle.

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    Patricia,


    I wish we could remove all the carpeting and replace it with hardwood floors, but that is not in our budget. We plan to be in our home for the next five to ten years. There is wainscoting in the toilet/shower room and no where else.

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    While $5-7 may seem like a lot it is an extremely modest amount considering what you are dealing with. I might actually do nothing until you could afford to do far more.

    Laurie Fryett thanked WestCoast Hopeful
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    arcy_gw,


    Thanks for your comments. I love neutrals - grays, beiges, creams, whites - and am happy to use those colors with flooring and tiles.


    I am certain there is subfloor in the entire master bedroom and bathroom. I agree that jacuzzi tubs are too much work/effort/water. I think we need to keep the tub so we can stay within our budget of $5 to $7 K.


    I am sorry I was unclear about the layout of the bathroom area. The closet and bathroom aren't linked together. We don't have any issue with moisture in the closet.


    Just to clarify, there is a hallway from our master bedroom that leads to three separate areas:


    On the left

    A large walk-in closet


    In the center

    The bathroom which includes a 8' counter with double sinks. Directly across from the counter is the jacuzzi tub.


    On the right

    A small room with toilet and shower. There is a window above toilet. A pocket door for privacy.


    Interesting idea to use lineoleum to bridge the gap. I need to think about that more.

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    Hi millworkman,


    Not soon. We plan to sell our home in the next five to ten years. If we leave the tub and redo the flooring and tile in the bathroom, I hope that will make it easier to sell in the future.

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    Replacing the shower floor will mean ripping out some of the shower walls as well. So you might as well retile everything to match counters and tub. If shower is functional you could leave it alone and just do the floors.

    Laurie Fryett thanked kathleen MK
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    Hello Lyn,


    We will start by removing the carpet in the bathroom. We do have another bedroom to use. There is subfloor beneath the carpet. I am excited to update the tile throughout the bathroom and toilet/shower room. What color do you recommend that will complement the countertop and cabinets? The interior of the jacuzzi tub and the double sinks are cream colored. Should we update them to white?

  • PRO
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    FIRST ?

    What is your flooring outside the primary en suite and in the rest of the house? It is carpeting with a tiled kitchen or you have some real oak strip hardwood or ??? and where?

    Unless you have a real hardwood outside that master bedroom? I would NOT tile any of the bath. I would do an LVP.......ALL. OF BED AND BATH. Every last inch.

    Here.....?

    so we can stay within our budget of $5 to $7 K.

    Exactly!!! down here.



    Why?

    Nobody wants any of what you have,! Not the carpeting in bedroom/pass through, not the tub, not even the layout. It's simply typical leftover 1979 and it has done its day.

    LVP the master bedroom, the closet the vanity area the ENTIRE thing. This will give you the ten year update, unless you are the type that floods a bath washing your face!

    Unless that IS a hardwood outside that bedroom, I'm going LVP and every scrap of every floor in there .......shall find the dumpster.



    You're worried match? No.....just a decent blend. You could even PAINT the vanity.

    Because.......It's a better spend of dollars and lipstick, by far.



    : (


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    Leave the ivory sinks alone, leave the jacuzzi alone.

    If you can't stomach the toilet/shower area in LVP? tile it to plain black and get over it.

    Failing this total LVP concept? All the tile goes black, or it just gets more mismatched, lipstick on the little piggy: )



    Laurie Fryett thanked JAN MOYER
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    Replacing the shower floor means you have to do the whole shower: removing the shower tile from top to bottom, replacing the waterproofing, and installing new tile. That's going to eat up your $5-7K budget right there.


    However, if the problem is simply grout needing replacement around the stones in the shower floor, and the floor doesn't leak, you may be able to get a very good tile installer to redo the grout.

    Laurie Fryett thanked apple_pie_order
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    sounds like the budget is a limiting factor. Since none of your openings line up, I would cut the carpet across the floor where the end of the closet is (at the inside of the wall vent) Install a threshold to separate the bathroom floor from the carpet.

    Simplifying the reno, tile the bathroom floor in a tile that compliments what you have.

    I personally would choose a pattern with white, gray and black. you mentioned replacing the shower floor. a small tile, 2" or less to accomodate the drain properly, even a penny tile with the similar ideas in mind, gray, black...

    When you're all done, paint the whole room, ceiling, walls and trims white or the same color as your toilet, sink and bath fixtures. sample SW Alabaster, a softer white, rather than an arctic white. That etched glass panel could be covered with a film with a design, available online in a variety of patterns, like stained glass etc.

    Laurie Fryett thanked Lyn Nielson
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    Jan Moyer,


    Most of the flooring in the rest of the house is oak hardwoods (entry way, kitchen, dining room, large family room off kitchen, hallway that leads to three bedrooms). The only exception is wall to wall carpeting in the 'sunken' living room and two other bedrooms. The guest bathroom has a tile floor in ivory color. With that scenario, would you still use LVP in the master bathroom and bedroom?

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    Hi apple_pie_order,


    The floor in the shower is in good working order and doesn't leak. The tile looks like small colored round pebbles which is difficult to keep clean. The light colored grout on the shower walls has discolored. Good idea to have find a tiler to redo grout. Thank you!

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    Lyn,

    Covering the etched glass panel with a film with design sounds great. I like the color palette you suggested. We will simplify the renovation. Thanks so much for your comments.

  • PRO
    last month

    You have less that 10% of the cost that it will take to address a master bath renovation. So, time to start learning how to be handy. But even the materials will cost more than you've allocated. You've allocated a coat of paint, a shower curtain, and towels.

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    This is an interesting tile suitable for a bathroom floor. It's even on sale.

    Your gray may be a difficult tile to compliment, but blending with the blue could work, depending on the style you want. This is a great source, often with great sales.

    https://www.tilebar.com/product/parma-cruz-denim-blue-5x8-terracotta-look-matte-porcelain-tile.html

    Laurie Fryett thanked Lyn Nielson
  • PRO
    last month

    She asks.........

    "Most of the flooring in the rest of the house is oak hardwoods (entry way, kitchen, dining room, large family room off kitchen, hallway that leads to three bedrooms). The only exception is wall to wall carpeting in the 'sunken' living room and two other bedrooms. The guest bathroom has a tile floor in ivory color. With that scenario, Would you still use LVP in the master bed and bath.?

    Answer..NOPE!!

    Go tile shopping for a nice black or almost black tile.You already have black accent in there. No shine, no veins . plain: )

    Daltile is available everywhere, much of it stocked, no ship fee. Go to a source near you.

    Paint the walls, hang some art and that's that.

    Not enough resources for a real impact, so get out cheap. Use anything saved for side tables and lamps next to primary bed


    Laurie Fryett thanked JAN MOYER
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    Laurie - I'm sure that I will receive some unkind comments for this - HOWEVER, I just wanted to let you know about some possible ideas you could use in order to stretch your budget in order to end up with a nice looking update to your current bathroom.

    If your shower floor is sound = not leaking, you could have a new shower floor tile installed over the existing tile. It's not done that often - and many pros will tell you that you can't do it, but it can be done successfully.

    Sal DiBlasi is a very well respected tile pro who has many videos on YouTube. One of the videos shows how to add a new tile floor over an existing shower floor. I imagine that there are other videos that show the same thing - however, Sal is so well respected + a very talented tile professional that I would search for his video.

    Also, Home RenoVision DIY on YouTube has a HUGE following - he's a nice guy from Canada who has many videos on various subjects - including tiling. He shows how to tile over existing wall tiles (again, as long as the existing walls have no issues). I've read posts here on Houzz where a few pros have suggested that it is possible to tile over tile - and recommended the same product to use (as the guy on YouTube) to prep the existing tile surface in order to have a successful installation of the new tile. He also shows how to address reinstalling the trim/spout (the wall is thicker with a second layer to tile on it).

    I actually used his video to help my sister tile over the existing tiles in a bathroom at her new (to her) house during her divorce (= she couldn't spend much $ on renovating anything because the divorce wasn't finalized). It was a shower/tub combo surround = no shower pan to deal with = much less intimidating! That was several years ago (before I joined Houzz and learned about the John Bridge Tile forum). FYI - the shower/tub surround still looks great after 6+ years.

    I'd attach a photo of our project - however, I don't have one. I will ask her if she has one - she can't take a current one because she rents this house out now. FYI - her house is nice - around 3,000 sf + in a nice neighborhood - so, it was important that the tile surround looked nice when we were finished (she didn't rent the house out until recently when she got remarried - we just wanted to make the bathroom look extra nice for my high school aged niece who was struggling with the very adversarial divorce that her parents were going through at the time) - so, it wasn't a "slumlord" situation where it didn't matter how the project looked as long as it was cheap!

    You can also tile over the tile on your jacuzzi tub surround in order to match the new floor tile that you select.

    The John Bridge Tile Forum is a good place to go if you want to DIY any (or all) of the tiling in your bathroom. The pros over there are very knowledgeable and extremely helpful (not implying that the pros here are not - there's just many more tile professionals over on the JBT forum vs. here on Houzz). They have helped MANY homeowners build a shower from scratch - providing advice/support all along the way.

    When I was having issues with my contractor, they confirmed that my concerns about my contractor cutting some corners were real issues that needed to be remedied (we parted ways). When I was having an issue finding a new tile pro that I was comfortable with to re-do my shower + complete the other tile work in my bathroom, the pros over there tried to encourage me to do the work myself - and assured me that I could do it and that they would support me along the way (one pro even offered to give me one of his tile saws that he didn't really use much anymore!)

    Anyway - your carpet appears to be in good condition - I'd leave it in your bedroom + closet for now and just focus on updating your bathroom.

    There are ways to stretch your $5-7,000 budget - we (my sister and I) updated my niece's bathroom for much less than your budget. We even replaced the vanity with a new one that came with a countertop and sink. We didn't have to deal with a jacuzzi tub - not sure how much that would cost to be removed + have a new tub installed (you may have to wait to do that - just buy extra floor tile so that you have enough for whenever you're ready to attack that issue).

    The labor is the biggest expense re: tiling. You can find nice tile that isn't very expensive - the cost to install it is where it becomes $$$.

    FYI - I had NEVER tiled anything before doing the surround + bathroom floor - and neither had my sister. If you are somewhat handy + reasonably intelligent - you and your hubby can do it too!

    Laurie Fryett thanked dani_m08
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    dani_m08,

    Based on the feedback we received, it makes sense for us to hold off doing anything with the jacuzzi tub. We will explore Sal DiBlasi and Home RenoVision DIY on YouTube, and the John Bridge Tile Forum. My husband actually loves DIY projects. Thanks again for your comments. Very helpful!



  • last month

    Hi Jan,


    Thanks for your suggestions. We willl check out Daltile tile sources nearby. The side tables next to the master bed are very dated and we want to replace them. However, the table lamps are fairly new, purchased just two years ago from Room and Board.

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    McDonald Enterprises,

    Thanks for your insight. We didn't realize that our budget of $5,000 to $7,000 would only allocate enough for a coat of paint, a shower curtain and towels. Will have to start saving our pennies!

  • PRO
    last month

    Laurie, I think that $5-7K is going to get you a lot more than a coat of paint, shower curtain and towels. You just need to be judicious as to where you spend it. I think Danni's comments are very interesting and useful. I wouldn't put much faith in some of the other comments, ahem.

    Laurie Fryett thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
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    Wow, I am wondering where McDonald Enterprises buys paint, towels, and shower curtains! 😳

    Laurie Fryett thanked melindas1977
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    While I don’t agree it will only get paint, towels, and a shower curtain I will say that I wonder if it makes sense to save a bit more and do the renovation you want. The old sting of throwing good money after bad etc.

    Laurie Fryett thanked WestCoast Hopeful
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    WestCoast Hopeful,


    There are a lot of things to consider. After weighing all the options, we've decided to save more $$ and tackle the renovation the right way.

  • PRO
    last month

    Clarify that?: )^^^^