First, to gain more space in your kitchen, turn the table on the diagonal

Second, in selecting your new fixtures I'd advise you select ones that don't cast such strange patterns across the walls and ceilings. The patterned glass migtht be insteresting to view, but the effect of light through the glass is not a good look for your kitchen. Also the fixture over the table currently focuses the light on the ceiling instead of the table top also not a desireable end appearance.

So the table is round, am I just changes how the chairs are around the table?
Also, do you have a lighting recommendation.? I’m struggling because the knobs on my kitchen cabinet are brushed nickel. Do I have to stick with that finish for the light over the table and the island lighting?

Much better. I hope you see the immediate change in the area.

I would not select brushed nickel. My first impression is that the room needs a bit of contrast. All your finishes, except for your floor kind of flow into one another. The once area that stands out is your table and chairs which works well in the kitchen.

I'd been looking for fixtures with some black metal and translucent shades to filter the light in the room. Maybe not these fixtures exactly but I have them in my file and they are easy to reach for.

Are you looking to buy something off the shelf at HD or Lowes or can we look at a lighting shop?

I see no benfit from going to a fixture with shades and quite heavy looking. We really have little idea of your style so maybe a pic of the LR to give us that.. I see very little difference in chair placement for better use of the space but can't hurt. Since the 2 areas are seen together I suggest you do the same type of bulb in both and I agree no textured glass. The bulbs in the kitchen look to be 5000K LEDs not a good choice but I do like 4000K for both .

Thank you for the feedback. It’s very helpful! Here is a photo of my fireplace room that is connected to the dinette area. As you can see it’s not completed. Still searching for a rug, coffee table, end table and pillows, art etc. but just to give you an idea.
Any recommendations for lighting would be greatly appreciated. I am fine with light sources and not really interested in Home Depot. Thank you

Could you raise/lower all the cellular shades, everywhere, let us see the kitchen and all surrounding, (clearly a family room....? ) in DAYLIGHT please?

Thank you!

Black and white. Simple with good quality of light through translucent shades

Aha!!!!!

I knew it rang a bell!!!

This all below is you, Michelle........ a year ago. Hearth room, bedroom, island stools

The great room with all the Arhaus ( rug, sectional, cocktail ottoman, regrets, returns.....

and about nine different posts on this house?

Yes?? Just a handful below.....of what was 344 comments, 200 mine? and who knows how many were lights?

Yup.......there was more.....

What happened with all that?

Am I losing my mind??

Remember?

344 comments on the entire house! In just ONE of the many threads. Included were eighty ways to combine island and dining area lights!

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6452023/hearth-room-help

Turn all the pics to daylight, every room....and what happened in great room with the seating arrangement struggle? and the beneath the tv struggle?

Hi Jan, Yes I remember and appreciated all your help! I have come a long way! If you don’t want to be part of my discussion I understand. I dont think it’s necessary to throw the past up on the feed.

Well. You know what your original question was, Michelle? or one of them?

" Where can I find a designer in ________" your city.

I think you need a one on one; should GET a local designer to help you. You struggle with decision. The crowd source here will be just that. Hundreds of suggestions, and more confusing, and more difficult for YOU to decide and implement. : )

Read those 344 comments from that link? There were literally tons of lights, me and many others along with ways to combine them.

The interior designers in my area are booked solid and the one person I was going to hire , wanted $300/hour! There a numerous people that call themselves interior designers but are not trained. Just so you know, I have made progress !

Michelle, I remember your previous threads as well and I do see progress. You have different chairs in the eating area and I think I see the Arhaus chairs in the dining room. You also have new barstools. And you followed the suggestions for the layout of the hearth room instead of the Arhaus chairs you were looking at. Hope you are enjoying all your new furniture!

I like the simple fixtures @BeverlyFLADeziner suggested - shades help prevent all that glare

FWIW my fav pendants are the bone china ones from BTC original out of the UK, we have some that have no hardware at all and it makes them super neutral - the light is lovely thru the ceramic shade. I am a nut for texture so I’d go with something rattan over the table

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IF you go back to the old thread......it may help you and others : Just a handful from all previously suggested

Which included others in rattan, linen, warm brass etc.

I'd advise a decision on finish,...first.

Good luck.

Yes the finish is exactly what is holding me up! The knobs on my cabinets are satin nickel as well as every door Handel etc in the house. I really don’t want to get fixtures for island and table in that finish. Not sure what finish would coordinate.

^^

"Not sure what finish would coordinate"

Michelle,

.....IF you go back to last year, virtually every savvy contributor gave you all these options: warm brass, black w 'white...even rattan and linen for just that R.E.A.S.O.N!! Lets use the right word:

COMPLEMENT!!! Not "match" and coordinate is reserved how island and table lights relate to one another!! Got that?

Every single finish i just mentioned, and above pic is a complement to your existing satin nickel cabinet hardware , door handles in the house, and stainless appliances.

I just above posted above and below a link to your old thread, and a screen shot, many of them put together for you to COORDINATE with each other, and to COMPLEMENT the selections all other, in your home.

Go back, review. Then come back and tell us all what we're missing and exactly what you want the market to offer up.

There were many more than these

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6452023/hearth-room-help

Go B.A.C.K.

also stop using the phone to post /review if you are. Use your laptop or an ipad, if at all possible.

I think you read 20% of the help offered here.

Right, why look at something on a 3" x 6" screen when I can look at it on a 14" x 24" screen!

Just requested a detailed 4 page quote from a vendor and he texted me the pdf. I replied that if he wanted the business, he might want to email it so I can see it on my much larger PC screen!

To all who may contribute?

Put them TOGETHER for her, or don't post. No, I am not kidding.

Michelle, You can't keep reinventing the wheel of the marketplace. Can't keep saying but "I don't want to spend more than, is there anything like it for less" unless you get on a computer, screen shot it and do your own Goggle image search.

"ARE THERE ANY DESIGNERS WHO CAN HELP ME FIND......."

Of course! But not with your process. You need to believe somebody, anybody. You can't venture to any designer 300.00 an hour. I'm 150.00 , this is f.r.e.e. As was all last year.

Crystorama/ Shades of Light

Shades of light below!!!

Can be brass OR black

Both down here?Not one thing on this earth could be easier!! Go on Shades of light, pick black or brass and move on, Buy a single chandy Add the three pendants /presto!. In either finish!

More.......

More...........more

West Elm chandelier, w Shades of light pendanrs below

cant' remember down here, but really nice too despite

a little glass to dust.

You said this........last year

"Since we did not want our home to be all Arhaus furniture and accessories we
hired an interior designer to help us with the hearth room and bedroom. Unfortunately, after 12 hours of paying for her time..., we were not on the same page and did not like her selections."

The combo's above? Took 4.5 hours, and NO possible way I would give any client that many under any circumstance. What exactly is "your page" and bet me you can not answer?

Now you're here? Still, eleven months later.

"Still searching for a rug, coffee table, end table and pillows, art etc. but just to give you an idea."

There's no designer in your city , or anywhere, who'd allow you to agonize as you're doing, and take your money !!!! BY THE HOUR, for nearly a year, on a budget, as they keep searching for your sweet spot while you over think, unless they are 100% corrupt. Your entire world need not be gray, simply because you have "Agreeable Gray" that you don't love on the darn walls, and Arhaus isn't the only source on earth.......

FINISH THIS TOO!!?

Get a rug

Put a great round table between the chairs

Pottery brn/perfect size

Get a simple right size cocktail, everyone can now reach everything. You don't need end tables at the sofa.

Pottery brn 17: x 48"

Add a lamp, just an example on round table.

add COLOR, TEXTURE!!!

It's pillows, not a lifetime sentence in prison. And

add a couple standing lamps.

Warm the room UP.

Thank you! Appreciate your help.
As for the chandelier, I have one already that points the light up with globes to clean. I was hoping for something more contemporary in style maybe a single piece. I do love all of the pendants !

Sweetie...you are on your own: )

SHADES!!! ARE NOT GLOBES!

And they point light DOWN.

YOU need to find it, whatever it is.

But it IS right under your nose...s.h.a.d.e.s.

Or go to a dedicated lighting store and torture them for a solid day.

Im sorry if you are so upset with me and the feed! Believe it or not, I work a full time job and volunteer my time at different places and take care of a family! I don’t have a lot of time to be shopping.

Given your time constraints, consider hiring a local interior designer who can meet with you in person to see your space and shop for you to achieve the look you are after.

Then you get a designer, Michelle, pay her and listen to her! Commit to making a d.e.c.i.s.i.o.n.

You can not have this ALL ways.

Your time, or your MONEY. That is life, for everyone.

Above is free, last year was free, from me and and many others, until they too gave up.

Last year over a month? Probably 40 hours of my time, ( 6,000.00 ) and did that come with a bill? No! Of course not!

Everyone here, pro and non, contributes, helps, because they love design.

If you love nothing you receive from contributors, can't put into words what you want? Nobody can help.

Michelle, I’ve just read through this and for once I kind of agree with Jan. You got lots of great advice and now need to pic through it and move forward. Select your top three from advice given and choose one. I think you almost got too much advice and that’s crippling you. When we designed our home we did have an ID and they narrowed everything down to 2-3 choices and we chose from that. That was exactly what I could handle. Too many choices is too hard.

^^^

Amen.

Because the internet is VAST. It's what Designers routinely do, and when they ( I, as it applies here)

have not hit the sweet spot..you know what I say to that client?

"One of us is not communicating, and it isn't me" .....You need to do a bit of legwork,until you can show it, describe, it....: ) and then? Call me!"

Those clients, are the same where you simply HAVE to walk away with your retainer, and wish them luck. Most always you'll find out the eight or nine designers the client had prior to you,did the same darn thing.

It's fear of judgment, it could be every decision in that persons life is similar! Who knows, but they will be nothing but miserable when handed a bill, and as you were with your own 12 hr experience, landing back where you BEGAN. NOWHERE.

To that point, Michelle do you know what you like? It seems tou know what you don’t like?

Perhaps you don't like the lights with multi-lights like you have now. There were several shown above with just one large shade that would be a change and are nice looking.

Yes the ones with one shade are for the island. Agree I don’t care for multi lights.

I find scrolling through on line pictures on Houzz and Pinterest is really helpful and be sure to be specific, ie: black chandelier over round black dining table. It can be more productive than getting so many suggestions, as you can identify what you like, prices and the retailers.

I searched black island fixtures (suggest) and was surprised by the prices. Even at Home Depot (Cdn$) x 3 can add up, but these are a nice size and style.

The chandelier doesn’t have to match. Suggest choosing round and consider the size. The more research you do, the more confident you’ll be about making a decision.

Lighting is very personal and there are thousands of options, which is why it's challenging for you to choose and for others to help you. Do you like drum shades? If it helps to visualize, the one I mocked up in your space below is the Delaney light from Capital Lighting. (link)

I have this one over my DR table and it looks really pretty when lit. I chose it because I wanted something that was neutral enough to play well with other lighting but also nice looking on its own. (In my home, it's visible from different spaces with unique lighting.) With a neutral light like this I think you would have some leeway with what you choose for pendants.

One example from my home: a vintage 5 globe light and the Delaney light over the table:

If that doesn't float your boat, and if you want fixtures that match, Jan gave you some coordinating options above. You could also check West Elm, which has a number of coordinating styles like the example below (link):

Or you could try a fixture that comes in two different sizes. The ones below are from Visual Comfort (link):

I know you said you don't have time to go shopping, but you'll probably live with your decision for awhile so you should really like it. Spend some time looking online, and then maybe you can narrow down some ideas and visit a lighting showroom in person once you know what you like.

I have had success with putting in the dimensions of the chandelier I want in my search, then using the virtual tool most lighting stores offer. Simply click and point and you will see the light you are considering in your space.

It’s easy to use filters and select size, color and style. Narrow it down that way first.

And lastly, not to pile on, but you said that you volunteer. I do as well. However, you need to be sure that you have the time to do so. It it is interfering with your getting things done at home, maybe take a pause on the volunteer stuff and review what the pros have already suggested for you.

If you scroll further back, there were several drum shade lights posted for the table, such as the Delaney that chicagoans mocked up.

^^^

Last year..........: ) ?

The most common reasons that people struggle, and don't select?

Fear of a mistake....equating to fear of judgement.

If you don't select, you have not made a mistake, you can't be judged and you just keep saying "I'm searching" : )

Which isn't a lie......lol

Yes..... a shallow depth! drum shade, with any of the pendants.

Jan, Michelle did follow your layout for the furniture in the hearth room which was a big difference from what Arhaus suggested.

True that! All it needs is a finish!