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Help with exterior lights for large shop

last month

Hi Everyone,


I need some advice about exterior lights for a large shop we are having constructed. Here is some info about the lot and the area:


We have a 2 acre lot in a small gated community, consisting of ten 2-acre lots. We are building a separate 2300 sq ft, one story house. This shop is 2160 sq ft. The front elevation will be facing the front of our house (due to views) and about 60-75 feet away. Behind the shop is a wooded area, and to the right of it is the property line to the adjacent lot, perhaps 20 feet away. The neighbor's lot is empty, and I am 100% sure that once something is built on it, it will NOT be close to our shared property line.


We've always been suburbanites so I need some guidance about number and type of exterior lights we need for the shop. We typically have our exterior house lights on all night, and plan to do so with the new house. But I don't see us turning on the shop lights unless we need them.


I plan to buy this lantern for the house:



For the front of the shop, I will use this same lantern on either side of the double garage door, and a motion light above the RV door. Our builder didn't know if a motion light may be distracting as we're driving in, and suggested a large barn style light. But I thought a motion detector light would be more cost and energy efficient? For the left elevation, we'll use this same lantern to the right of the single garage door. Because the right elevation faces the neighbor's lot, we don't see a need to put lights on that side.


I'm not sure what kind of light, and how many, we may need for the back of the shop. My husband said he needs/wants just one light by the window, as he also wants a spigot close to that area. Will only one look strange, or should I care since the back faces a wooded area?


Thank you!




Comments (10)

  • PRO
    last month

    Consider lights that project light down only to the areas needed and not out horizontally to your neighbors. Barn Lights above the overhead doors located below gables may be appropriate. Recessed eave lights may be appropriate above the overhead door at the shed roof.

    The shop's design shown in the drawings provided does not seem to go with the style of the light chosen for the house. It may just be me but the description of the buildings on the site does not lend itself to what I conceive a "gated community" to be. Although I was in a gated community in Detroit that meant every door and window had a gate on it.

    As side notes, put a hand wash sink inside the bathroom and the window placement may interfere with the loft. If the gutters do not function properly there could be a lot of water/ice falling off the roof at the swinging door location.

    drcindy thanked Mark Bischak, Architect
  • last month
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    I would also install "security" floodlights in your eves, for both house and garage. Then have a set of switches in your house and the garage, so you can light up all around the 2 buildings if there is a commotion outside. Don't use motion detection on these floodlights ... that is annoying to everyone. Most floodlights come with a cover to disable motion detection.

    While you are installing wiring, get some for security cameras too.

    As far as the lantern you picked, make sure you know how the light bulb is changed. Some are easy and some are a pain to change. Mine are a pain and need two people as the glass will fall out when you open the bulb compartment. I would not buy that style again, specially when I have several around the house/patio and changing a simple light bulb becomes a two person job. I need to find a good LED light for my lanterns so the light bulbs last longer.

    drcindy thanked chispa
  • PRO
    last month
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    I think you should consider lights often called Barn Lights.











    The lights you're considering do not have enough spread. They will likely not illuminate more than a 5 ft circle. That's why I am suggesting the barn lights. They can be mounted and stand out from the building and you'll get a much wider spread on the light.

  • last month

    Thanks to everyone for all your suggestions. I'm not familiar with "dark sky compliance" but will look more into this.

    We are definitely looking at the barn light style for over the RV door. Beverly FLADeziner, thanks for the visual of where to possibly place them.

    Hubby isn't interested in floodlights. He is the one who said he may be at the back of the shop, but I really don't know why he'd be there at night!

  • PRO
    last month

    I notice the drawing has a note that reads "Protect Plumbing From Freezing"; the best way to do that is to locate the plumbing on an interior wall.

    drcindy thanked Mark Bischak, Architect
  • 29 days ago

    Thanks Mark-we can easily move the placement of the toilet and urinal. And the reason why the sink isn't IN the bathroom is because my husband is an avid duck hunter and fisherman. We'll have a stainless steel utility sink in the shop that he'll use to clean his ducks, and he didn't want to do that task in the bathroom.

  • PRO
    29 days ago
    last modified: 29 days ago

    I would recommend a self-wash sink inside the bathroom and a duck/fish wash sink outside the bathroom.


    Fly fisherman?

  • PRO
    29 days ago

    A flood light is when there is no shade to control the direction of the light. People are accustomed to see lights like this mounted on pole buildings This is a mercury vapor light that was used before LED were invented. Lots of light. The quality was not good.



    These are flood lights. Again lots of light but the quality is not good except for security.


    Here again are the Barn lights which come in a variety of colors.



  • 29 days ago

    BeverlyFLADeziner: "A flood light is when there is no shade to control the direction of the light."

    Right. This is the style of non-Dark-Sky-compliant light you would never want to install.