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Awkward kitchen dining area

20 days ago

I am having a hard time figuring out what exactly to do with this space. The issue is this half wall (load bearing) that separates the kitchen and living room.


I am torn between a few options:

1. making the half wall into a breakfast bar by throwing a countertop on it.

2. adding bench seating against the half wall for a small banquette with a circle table.

3.Any other ideas


The chandelier will have to be moved either way.


It’s hard because most pathways except for the half wall side are higher trafficked areas into the kitchen. If the table is too big, it’ll eat into pathways.


I feel like I’m losing my mind going back and forth on what to do here 😂 I just want it to look intentional & good. What would you do?



KITCHEN SPACE DIMENSIONS:

OVERALL LENGTH 127” (12.5ft)

OVERALL WIDTH 100” (8.5 ft)

(highest trafficked area is length on one side)





Comments (21)

  • 20 days ago

    What are you hoping to accomplish -- a seating/eating area, or visual space filler?

  • 20 days ago

    Seating / eating area. I have noticed when we have company over we all hover around the island and was hoping to somehow add seating

  • 20 days ago

    Is this your only eating and seating area in your home? How many are in your household?


    I don’t like a bar where you face the living room and your back is to whomever is cooking.

  • 20 days ago

    That was a con I had as well about a breakfast bar option. It is not, we have a full dining room.


    when we moved in I originally wanted to extend the island for seating but it would block the slider side that opens

  • 20 days ago

    Could you change the sliding door to one that opens from the right side instead of the left? That would free up space for the left half of the door.

    Did you also originally plan on removing the wall to the right of the sink? That wall is a physical separator and I don't think just extending the island would work aesthetically. I also don't think you have room behind the island for an island with seating - even if the island is only seating on the extended part. But, without a full layout (with measurements) I can't be sure one way or the other.

  • 20 days ago
    last modified: 18 days ago

    The bench idea might work (bench against the pony wall only), but I would go with a shallow rectangular table, not round for better functionality and to take up less space. I wouldn't go with a table any deeper than 36" - less would be better. I assume this will not be for regular meals, just for sitting around for a snack or other short-term use. Stick with the Dining Room for full meals.

  • 20 days ago

    @Nichole ….. yes, people do tend hover around an island or, in my case, kitchen. Once, when hosting a large dinner party ( about 20 or so guests ) I actually enclosed my kitchen with yellow ”caution” or ”crime scene” tape to keep people out!

  • PRO
    19 days ago

    IMO a to scale floor plan is amust since the pics distort that space evey time but real measurements tell the story

  • 19 days ago

    For a similar space in my home, we love a dark green wicker bistro table and chairs with a glass top. They have a softer feel and look to them than metal bistro tables, and people (especially older people) can sit there out of the way but still be part of the conversation.

    Is the space beyond the former eating are an addition put on by previous owners?

  • 19 days ago

    That area was meant for a kitchen table. Get a nice one. Anything else will look odd.

  • 19 days ago

    The placeholder table you have seems to fit. Does it block the door? My suggestion is you look at counter height tables. They act as island seating, dining and even counter space when needed. You can find them in small sizes.

    I also like the bistro set idea. Pushed up against the wall, out of the way, and cozy.

  • 19 days ago

    I agree. Kitchen table. Don't put anything up against the slider (so neither idea). It will look crammed.

  • 19 days ago

    What’s going on in the living room that would prevent you from putting appetizers in the living room and saying to your guests, “Let’s go sit down somewhere comfortable.”

  • 18 days ago
    last modified: 18 days ago

    If the table is only for perching for a few minutes, then a counter-height table may work. However, if you also envision using it for meals, I would stick with a table-height table. In fact, counter-height tables are not as popular as they once were. Everyone I know who followed the counter- & bar-height table fad years ago have reverted back to a table-height table. They're not that comfortable long-term.

  • 18 days ago

    It looks like your doors open to another indoor room - or is that a covered porch? Just trying to figure out traffic flow and the use of that additional space.

  • 18 days ago

    The sliders open to an enclosed 3-season porch!

  • 18 days ago

    I am leaning towards counter-height against the wall to connect to the living room more. I agree the area is just too narrow for a small dining table. If the half wall wasn’t there it’d be fine.


    Now to move the light …

  • 16 days ago

    @Nichole lately I've been impressed with the power of floor and table lamps to make a space feel roomy if you have low ceilings like I do. Mine are between 7'4" and 8'. We bought some for our upstairs renovation and are using them downstairs for extra lighting and are just blown away. The pros on this are likely laughing at me right now.

    Thanks for explaining that the space beyond the doors is a three-season enclosed space.

  • 16 days ago

    I’d be tempted to put a sleek round pedestal dining table there, with 3 comfy but modern chairs that can be pushed all the way under - put the best snacks on the table and see if folks will migrate over


    i have a living room that NO one will go in during a party - finally put the bar in there and it helps a little

  • 10 days ago

    Despite the push-back, counter height chairs are comfortable if they have rungs to rest the feet.

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