I lived with a corner sink for 23 years. It wasted a lot of space that could otherwise have been used more efficiently for storage, both in the sink cabinet and behind the sink. It wasn't the worst design ever, but it was far from great. Personally I'd always prefer a sink facing a window to one facing a corner.

8x8 is not tiny, btw. I've had several smaller kitchens than that over the years.

Kitchens wiht corner cabinets are usually not very functional. Here are examples of some small kitchens for inspiration.

depends on how many people are in the space at a time/ One person kitchen? corner sink is going to work. I would consider a 24 inch range... my dad had one in his senior living situation..I cooked plenty of things there for him..it was fine, along w the 18 inch dishwasher. RE "popular " or not? there are plenty of people who would say various things but it all depends on the situation at hand ..how the space is used...etc. of course "popular things" can be showcased in a big kitchen much easier.... a designer isnt going to advertise or demonstrate her skills in her showroom in 8 by 8 kitchens ..... they can get it done but your compromises have to be ones you decide on. Ikea has some smaller kitchens in their showrooms but mixed in w larger spaces too.

We are downsizing, cutting an in-law apartment out of house. Two of us, husband doesn't do kitchen stuff. I did the 18" D/W, could do the stove too, no problem. There are two corners, I will be digging into back of one, didn't want to have to do it with two. There's still room under sink for some storage, have a garbage pail out of sight. Just have to find the right size sink. Thank you for your input.

There isn't a kitchen window, and I did try with open island, which I would really prefer, but the "black bar" is a supporting beam, can't move. Will try the island again, but that eliminates top cabinets. Thanks

I too have had smaller kitchens. 8x8 is not bad.

I seriously dislike a corner sink. Not good storage beneath and don't love the trapped feeling of when the dishwasher is open. Plus, I find the depth of corner counter space very useful in a small kitchen while cooking because you have a ton of depth in which to push back prepped items, cooling items, great for when you are juggling lots of bowls.

In a small kitchen I prefer a full sized dishwasher. You can throw *everything* in there and run it. When you start having to hand wash items and have a drying rack it seriously eats up counter space in a small kitchen. Plus, having a lot of your dishes and pots in rotation in the dishwasher allows for a bit more empty cabinet space.

I also see no reason why to have small stove either. They really irritate me because the pots and handles start touching each other.

Can you please label what all of the areas are on your drawing? I really don't understand it all that well, especially the run on the left.

In these pics, pay attention to the layout of the sinks and dishwashers and ranges. Ignore the uppers and that many of these have open walls to other rooms that yours will not.

Greene · More Info

Jadite Kitchen Remodel · More Info

SKYCROFT KITCHEN · More Info

Cheery Condo · More Info

I have a small kitchen that I recently redid and one of the best decisions that I made was to go with a regular size induction range.

It is a Samsung with a smooth, matte cooking surface that effectively gives me that much more counter /work surface space.

. I can cook on one burner and have the instant pot sitting right next to it. I can have my spices and other prepped foods sitting on the cook surface as I cook.
In addition it is a snap to clean and cooks like a dream, while not polluting my indoor air. I had to upgrade my electrical line goin to it but it was worth the expense.

I also kept corner cabs, using a fold out door on the upper and a good pull out on the lower and do not regret either. They work great.
We also significantly downsized and one of the secrets is to do just that, ie get rid of stuff pretty ruthlessly. It is quite liberating.

I also recommend using a good kitchen designer. Good luck with everything!

Interior wall to wall measurements of kitchen is 96"x96" - 8'x8' The left wall blocked off area are heat ducts. Standard corner straight cabinets have to be 42" for reach. I can do 1 corner, but not both. The angled corner sink cabinet in picture is 36", D/W is 18", end cabinet is 42" = 96". Open to island but can't fit in,

In all of the photos that Kendrah posted above, imagine how much more workspace there would be if the bulky gas burners were instead a smooth surface.

buehl:

Thank you for your input. This is for myself and husband, an in-law apartment. I am in a tri-level now - no more stairs**. I am tearing out a closet and back to back bar for this kitchen. This is on ground floor level and over a high crawl space so all pipes, drains can be installed under the floor, able to connect to adjacent bathroom drains.

The middle of my kitchen will have ducts going directly across but will still have a ceiling height of 8' under the ductwork enclosure.

A - Ductwork appx 10" width.

B - Ductwork - Doesn't go right up to the wall. I estimated that there is a gap, the 1'10" that would be behind my corner sink. Haven't torn the walls down yet. But would put shelves in there so sink wouldn't be so confining.

> The solid green is back of an upper closet. It does not extend to the lower floor level but I have access to that opening (that will be behind the Fridge)

> The green with lines is for 30" (2'6") Fridge. It doesn't seem that I need a counter depth fridge. The Fridge abuts a set of stairs, will be putting in a wall there.

E - is 27" x 6.6" Support Beam

F - Across from the fridge, (with the 27" support beam) corner is for a Pantry

C - is 9', 108" less 10/12" for ductwork. Wall that encloses ductwork is already in place.

D - It is 5'6" from top wall to support beam.

D - I am removing the present wall and have pushed it back 2'6" to include the new wall, gives me 8'-8'3". I could maybe add another 3-4" if necessary.

I like to have space on each side of the appliances. I wanted a full bank of drawers, I plan to put a bar fridge at bottom of pantry, shelves on top. The right wall D abuts the living room, that wall to have the TV on it. Ir seems I have almost 4' turn around space which should be adequate. Only concern I have is size of sink in a 36" corner.

Is this doable? Do you need any more information? I can send another blank sketch if you prefer? Did you also want the other rooms showing? Not sure how solid that program is, especially when it's this tight,

Many thanks

Unfortunately, I am confused by your descriptions. In addition, the measurements you provided don't seem to match what we see in the layout. E.g., "B" is far more than 1'10" - it's somewhere around 5'.

The ductwork description - is the ductwork open to the room, meaning there will be no wall enclosing the ductwork and, therefore, no place for upper cabinets. If that's the case, why? Are you trying for a particular "look" (maybe industrial/warehouse)? Usually, ductwork is inside between the walls on either side - in this case inside the walls b/w the Kitchen and whatever room is to the left of the Kitchen (or an exterior wall). If it is for looks, what is more important to you - looks or function? (We all have different priorities, no one way is "right" or "wrong", just what's important to you.)

Similar questions for the ceiling - will the ductwork be exposed or will you be putting in a ceiling?

When you say you are "removing the present wall and have pushed it back 2'6" to include the new wall", do you mean you are moving the wall "down" so there's more space in the Kitchen proper? Does your layout reflect the move or does it show the original location? Is the wall you're talking about the "black rectangle" on the right side of the drawing? How thick is the wall? How thick will the new wall be?

Do you have pictures of the current space? They may help us envision the space.

Yes, if you could draw it up with the correct measurements as a "blank canvas" for the space as it is today without the changes, that would also help. The measurements should include the widths of each window/wall/door/doorway and the distances between each window/wall/door/doorway.

A sketch of the entire floor would also be helpful.

Buehl:

I will send another sketch

Ignore the ductwork. There is a wall enclosing them already. I used inside measurements to that wall (5'10") That 1'10" is a niche I can use or close in, at end of that ductwork, doesn't matter. Ceiling already in place, minor patching to be done and ceiling ductwork is also enclosed. Might have to adapt the lighting.

Sketch: Existing walls are in Black, estimated 5" width. To extend new wall by 2'8", in White.

The supporting beam is 6.5"x27".

Entry to kitchen will be in front of stairs (3'8") that lead down to basement. Door leads to bathroom.

Hope this is clearer. Many thanks,

This is what I came up with for the blank slate. Please check it so see if I missed anything.

From what I can tell,

• You plan to eliminate the 5' wall on the right
• The 27" wall has to be somewhere along the far right wall, but it can move up/down
• Is the stairwell only 29"? The measurement wasn't provided, but when building the far right wall, this is what the stairway ends up being

Check my work please! 🙂

Yes, everything looks right on - just the width of those stairs is 33", not 29".

The 7"x27" wall/post cannot be moved at all. Blah.

I would be moving that 5' wall back 27" to line up with the end of support post, at 2'8" to include a 5" wall. *Not sure what you mean by moving wall up or down?

Thanks,

I meant moving the 27" wall toward the top or the bottom of the layout. But, it sounds like you cannot move it at all. Is it a wall or a post? If a post, what are the dimensions of the post? I'm asking in case you can use some of that space but not all of it. If you can use some of the space, how much of it can you use/how much has to stay. E.g., do you really just need a 7" x 7" post or is the entire wall needed?

The use of the term "post" seems to indicate only a post is needed, not an entire wall.

That 7"x27" is a supporting beam for upper floor. Cannot move it at all.