Our under counter beverage fridge is away from any other prep/sink/cooking area. There isn't one "correct" spot and most people will have valid reasons to place them in different areas of the kitchen.

Thank you! I feel both of my choices are not ideal because the first creates possible traffic behind you in the prep/work area and the second creates issues with the DW door being open during loading/unloading and having to shut it for someone to get to the bev fridge and/or the possible collision of the 2 appliance doors, although it is a french door bev fridge so doors don't open as far out as one with 1 full door.

Where are the glasses that the beverages will be poured into? Or where will the pouring happen? That’s where it should go. How and when will it be used? What kinds of beverages? Drunk by whom?

Yes, renovating. I added more info into main post. Perimeter cabinets are already installed as is a large pantry cabinet on another side of the room so no turning back as far as switching anything up. Bev Fridge was husband’s only ask and the only spot for it is in the island so i need to make the decision on that placement asap. Island is beign installed nexr week. Those are my only 2 options for placement

You are in there, we are not

You can post the 2D cad plan , the elevations and get help with the decision, Not understanding the resistance on that and seems if the only DH ask was a beverage fridge, more forethought with the plan and ""large pantry cabinet on the other side of the room" ? ? Hard to say : )

Are you sure clearances cant be 48”? One of the best pieces advice here was to do that and I appreciate it so much. If you do get that clearance, than that bev fridge would not get in the way of dishwasher.

Our beverage fridge is under our coffee station in our kitchen. Completely away from the main work zone/island. Love it there!

Do a search on my posts and you’ll see it! And btw it was @Jan_moyer who designed that kitchen.

It’s the things you see and don’t see that make the kitchen absolutely WOW.

Hope this is what is requested. I made many changes to this plan but this gives you the measurements.

ALL LOWERS ARE DRAWERS EXCEPT 12” TRAY, SINK AND CORNER LS

In place of the 9” tray is a 12” base, in place of 33” 3DB and the 15’ cab is a 18” trash then 30” 3DB. the 21” between LS and main fridge is a 3DB . The island consists of 2- 30” 3DB and bev fridge. It also cannot shift any more toward main fridge because the back door is next to fridge and that entry aisle has a small portion of wall that extends parallel to the fridge enclosure and stops close to where the end of the island is, so the island just cannit shift in that direction , it would be too tight entering into the main area of the kitchen.

The rest of the wall was removed so completely open between the kitchen and dining room which is located behind the seating area of the island.

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Rotate the beverage., YOU WILL NEED A SKIN panel,,,,,, you can trim it as rour cabinetry

Nothing about island size changes

I should add,,,,,,,,your island should not have stools , should be no more than 30" . Your clearances are FAR from ideal.......

And it is because you're in an 83' x 144" space.

We understand everyone wants the gathering kitchen. It is not always possible.

Your stools if not yet chosen need to be saddle style, tuck totally under. But I might really think on that... Sorry, not what you wanted to hear. Either way.the rotation keeps him out of your cook. and assume you have a trim panel on seat side of island anyway.

Have you considered putting the beverage fridge in the corner instead of the stand-alone cabinet (I think it’s labeled ’WP3030’)? With a counter on it and shelves/upper glass cabinet above it, it could function as a small beverage/coffee bar.

Thank you Jan. rotating it is a good idea. i do have the skins and will be trimming out the island so have all tbe supplies we would need. The area behind the stools is completely open to the dining room., no wall at all once you get a little past the fridge in the back entry. But yes, smaller stools that tuck under is what I was thinking. In order to get a pantry cab in, there really was’nt much other choice for location, but I do understand your reasoning. I believe I have close to 5 ft between fridge and island and 38” from island to pantry cab., which i do wish was 42”, then 42” aisle from sink to island.

HU-970394502, that comment is not helpful at all and actually highly insulting! This is an older house with certain restraints inside walls and with certain walls/doorways/entryways/ ceiling elevations that cannot be changed. And I think there is plenty of storage for my needs with 4 drawer bases, upper cabs and a 30x96 pantry cab., the DW, sink, trash flow is correct and I’m fine with this layout. Is it ideal, maybe not, especially in your eyes, but noone ”saw me coming” and “milked me for anything”. And I can guarantee you, even you could not change the layout of this kitchen. There is a ceiling beam that is not showing in the plans between the middle cab and the range- and there is no other spot for the range, so needed to work around certain unchangeables, like I said. And that plan sheet doesnt reflect the final cabinetry choices which I noted in the post, if you read it. Oh and grace and kindness is free, you should try showing it sometime.

Design Fan, I wish, but there is no room there. That 30x96” pantry cab takes up the whole small wall are there, minus room for light switches to the right of it and then tbere is an entry into another room.

"believe I have 5 ft between fridge and island and 38” from island to pantry cab., which i do wish was 42”, then 42” aisle from sink to island."I'd shift that island a bit toward fridge.

The island to sink is cabinet to cabinet I believe? Meaning accounting for top it's 4O' AND then you have door handle on range, I realize you had restraints.......but that island begged no stools: )

I'm not really understanding why the island can't shift a bit toward fridge...IN fact on the elevation it doesn't look like five feet!

I'd DEFINITELY just rotate beverage and keep him, the bend over and all...... out of your path and tight clearance when cooking

I’ll show you a pic of what I mean about the walls at the back entry and why I cannot shift the island any further down toward fridge. If it were simply a work island with no counter overhang or stools, I would have had plenty of room to do that. The island isn’t affected by the range handle because that end of the island doesnt start until beyond the range. The aisle from sink to island is 41” from door to door. In this pic you can also see the ceiling beam that runs across from area between middle upper cab snd range to other side of the ceiling.

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Sorry, I worded my suggestion in my prior post poorly. I was suggesting replacing the 30”x96” pantry cabinet with a beverage/coffee bar setup that consists of the beverage refrigerator with a counter and shelving or upper cabinet over it for glasses, etc. This keeps people looking for a drink out of the cooking area.

Otherwise @JAN MOYER‘s suggestion to rotate the beverage refrigerator in the island is a good one.

Design Fan, I loved that idea and would have done that if I could have but the cabinet/wall depth in that area is shy of 22” deep, you need 24” for a bev fridge and building out the wall just wasn’t an option due to the wall position and entryway going into the dining room,also couldn’t sink it 2” into wall because of what runs in that wall. like I said, many circumstances to work around and with, but I appreciate your help and idea and that would have been my choice if it were possible.