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A.R.T.S. evaluations.....on target or missing the mark?

5 months ago
last modified: 5 months ago

A.R.T.S., American Rose Trials for Sustainability, 'Master Roses,' has a pretty long list of disease free/winter hardy roses, that have passed regional trials. The regional selections are grouped, chosen from the main, comprehensive list, placed into regional selections, which are claimed to be more suitable for the different climates each region experiences.

What do you think of the efforts of this group?

Have you used their recommendations in selecting roses for your garden?

Moses.

Comments (8)

  • 5 months ago
    last modified: 5 months ago

    4 days later, and no one here knows anything, nor cares to express themselves about, 'A.R.T.S.,' a prominent Internet source of rose information? Remarkable!

    Moses.

  • 5 months ago

    I do little rose buying these days, my new purchase of the raspberry cupcake 3 pack notwithstanding. No room. arts and agrs were just getting up and running, I think, during my last sustained rose buying period, guided by recs from you, nipstress, daniela, vaporvac and others here, when most came from Palatine.

    I do like ”mission” that guides both organizations.

    Moses, Pitt PA, cold W & hot-humid S, z6 thanked rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
  • 5 months ago

    I have given my opinion for 1 of these groups. And agreed when I looked at the results for others in my area. We often had similar roses. And those I chose from there recommendations Did well.

    Moses, Pitt PA, cold W & hot-humid S, z6 thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 5 months ago
    last modified: 5 months ago

    Thanks, rifis and Vapor. II know that your rose growing challenges are much like mine are here in Pittsburgh, PA, zone 6a. I also am just about maxed out for new acquisitions as you are rifis.

    I am taking out my two Orange Glow Knock Outs for two reasons. 1. The blooms are basically miniflora size, 3" on a good day, most days, ~2.5". 2. The first flush, which should be the most lavish of the year, is sparse. Too much green showing between individual blooms. No fresh green buds for the following flush show until well after the first flush blooms petal drop.

    I remember Christian Bedard, the hybridizer at Weeks Roses, comment on the ideal rose being one which will not let there be long gaps of no blooms between flushes. Good roses will be pushing new buds even before the blooms of the first flush get well underway. This good trait is repeated all blooming season long to fall with such endowed roses.

    It grieves me to take the Orange Glow Knock Outs out. They are black spot free and are growing pretty vigorously.

    Brindabella Purple Prince, an A.R.T.S. recommendation, I already have in a 1 gal. pot from Home Depot Online, is replacing one. Double Easy Orange, yet to come, but from J&P as a 1/2 gal. own root, is scheduled to replace the other OGKO.

    Moses.

  • 5 months ago
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    Cynthia,

    What do you do for an encore? I'm out of breath absorbing your phenomenal post above.

    I think you are now the go to person if someone really wants the unvarnished truth about a rose.

    'If it excells for Cynthia, you can take it to the bank."

    Imagine if only you could evaluate for black spot susceptibility. Your golden gems of info would become platinum to me and others who suffer the summer heat and humidity that leads to, "Black Spot Syndrome."

    Moses.

  • 5 months ago

    Sorry I can't be of more help about blackspot but happy to help otherwise. We get some but not as much as in black spot central. Still, a dog is a dog anywhere if the blooms are scruffy and insignificant. I've been wrong before and am happy for alternate opinions about any of these. Top Gun was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for blackspot resistance but the hype has faded and the rose itself is forgettable.

    In general I've no quibble with the Rose Sustainability Trials and I applaud the effort. The fct aht Ping Lim roses are spotlighted already makes me glad to see such a list.

    Cynthia

  • 5 months ago

    Speaking of mistakes, I meant that Watercolors Home Run is similar to Campfire, not Julie Andrews. Apples and oranges...

    Cynthia