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Hello again! I've received great advice on Houzz before, so I'm back!

I'm shopping for an area rug to go under my DR table, and 4 new DR chairs. DR is "open" to the LR. I know you will want pics of the LR which I can add later.

This area is crying out for color but I don't want a rug or chairs that will overwhelm the art and I'm pulling my hair out trying to find the right balance.

Table is 47 inches wide and 80 inches long.

The wall with the very large art is 11 feet long.

It is 9 feet from that wall to the floor vents. I do not want to cover the vents.

Also thinking about a very, very narrow console table to sit under the art.

I've look at probably hundreds of rugs and chairs, but I need help finding the "right" combination.

I am also shopping for a tall cabinet to go next to the bay window where the small cabinet now sits, but that is for later.


DR area:








DR table finish:



Comments (193)

  • 12 days ago
    last modified: 12 days ago

    and maybe green is not the best color..... what do you think?

    Green moss balls arrived today. They will go into this:


  • 12 days ago

    I'm not seeing the DR rug. and would suggest choosing accessories last, after all your rugs, furniture and window coverings are in place.

    Abby Marshall thanked juliab51
  • 12 days ago


    DR rug -flat weave wool - blues, blue-gray, tan, pink & red threads, ivory

  • 12 days ago

    still didnt post - hmmm I'll try again

  • 12 days ago



  • 12 days ago
    last modified: 12 days ago

    @DIS - unfortunately the Fiezy Pearson rug doesnt come in the size I am looking for. The largest size is 10 x 12' 8". In order for all furniture to be on the rug, I need 10 x 13 at a minimum.

    9'6" x 13' 4" would be ideal.


  • 12 days ago

    I love that rug that you're showing right now that is kind of a muted like the picture the art you know what I'm saying and I think that would work if you really want that one or you'd have to keep looking

    Abby Marshall thanked happyleg
  • 11 days ago

    As an artist - go larger and more dramatic with your art piece.

    Abby Marshall thanked Badass Chick Extraordinaire
  • 11 days ago

    Your floor is so busy. While the rugs you posted are nice, I think that they don’t go well with your floor.

    Abby Marshall thanked njay
  • 11 days ago

    In most rooms the artwork is always subordinate, furniture is dominate, floor is subdominant.

    Abby Marshall thanked Margo L
  • 11 days ago

    @ Margo L However, the art is massive and is in a small, minimalist room. Does this fact make it dominant? Just asking cuz I'm curious.


  • 11 days ago

    To me the rug and the art brings it all together your artist is a good size for the room already it doesn't need to be any bigger or any smaller

    Abby Marshall thanked happyleg
  • 10 days ago

    I'd appreciate your opinions on these rugs for my FP room (couch is dark grey- almost black)




    From top to bottom:

    https://rugs.com/ivory-10x14-parker-area-rug-6317302

    https://rugs.com/ivory-10x13-oxford-area-rug-6311164

    https://rugs.com/ivory-10x13-madeline-vintage-area-rug-6338224

  • 9 days ago

    I like the first rug real well and then the second rug because so muted I like the third rug but it's third place but if you like it better you can always pick it

    Abby Marshall thanked happyleg
  • 9 days ago

    All of the white in #1 worrys me a bit. #2 when I do "see in your room" all the colorways for this model look the same, so Im not really sure about the actual color.

    @RedRyder if come back to this thread can you tell me which Etsy vendor you use for rugs, please?

  • 9 days ago

    @ Abby Marshall a perspective is function, usually that the furniture in a room dominates it because of the size, in relationship to everything else. Art galleries and murals, libraries, churches, work spaces, and other areas
    offer exceptions to this point of view.

    Abby Marshall thanked Margo L
  • 9 days ago

    Craftsman Rugs was one. Luxe Flooring was another (master bedroom rug). I am doing mostly Oushak rugs in this house. Oriental Rug of Houston is the third. My dining room rug is from them.

    Abby Marshall thanked RedRyder
  • 4 days ago
    last modified: 4 days ago

    I've been doing A LOT of window shoppinig and also bought a couple new things. I am hoping for your input!

    1. Purchased this chair but it is over budget. I tried a similar, cheaper one but no go. I have 30 days to return. I have 2 different chairs on order for a trial. Thoughts?


    Overall, I think this area looks much better. Different lighting is needed.


    2. Ordered a rug for the LR. I'll post a pic later.


    3. I really must make a decision about the freestanding cabinets next to the FP and I cant decided I forgot about the vent on the wall and that complicates matters. I wanted a tall, dark cabinet with shelves on top and doors or drawers on the bottom but I may need to go more open. I need both display space and a storage space. Maybe open on one side of FP and closed on the other side? I'm worried about proportion and color - large enough, but not overwhelming. Brown? Black? Distressed?


    Once the cabs are ordered I can think about tables. Please help me with the cabs if you have time!


    This is on order for over the FP. It's returnable. It's a Wexford print. Hopefully good quality.





    You will see that I rearranged the furniture. This is the layout that was originally suggested (years ago). Sofa at an angle to the FP. I know the chairs look too close-in. I'll change that.






  • 4 days ago

    I see my first pic failed to load. Trying again -


  • 4 days ago

    this is on order - slipcovered Parsons chair



  • 4 days ago

    What do you think of a cabinet like this that's open on the bottom but still has storage?

    Or this.


    Abby Marshall thanked katinparadise
  • 4 days ago

    I like both of those but I know the slip cover is the least expensive way to go it depends what you want I really do like number two but if they don't swirl they might be more harder to get out of I SW I v e l

    Abby Marshall thanked happyleg
  • 3 days ago

    Can someone please please please do a mock-up of this rug in this room? It's the one DIS suggested in her mood board.




  • 3 days ago

    I don't have photoshop on my phone but I think that will look amazing!

    Abby Marshall thanked happyleg
  • 3 days ago

    I too like the rug. I also like the picture, and cabinet #2. I hope they work out well for you.

    Abby Marshall thanked glschisler
  • 3 days ago
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    If you want to send a photo of your prior arrangement, I'll be happy to insert the rug in that photo, too. (Or perhaps this rug wouldn't fit in the prior arrangement?)

    Abby Marshall thanked dsimber
  • 3 days ago

    Thanks for the mock up! It helps a lot. I see that there is too much brown- it kinda blends into the floor.

  • 3 days ago

    The artwork for abopve the FP just arrived!!!! I think it is perfect. I'll post a pic as soon as I hang it.

  • 3 days ago

    Room pics with art above FP. Maybe use these pics to mock up the next rug I'll be posting?



  • 3 days ago

    Rug:


    Karastan Sanctum Cream 9x12

  • 3 days ago

    That's a nice rug too more muted than the other one and if you want to pick up any color in the picture you could pick up the blue if you find another rug that has a little bit of blue in it

    Abby Marshall thanked happyleg
  • 2 days ago

    Try swapping the sofa and swivel chair placements so the sofa doesn’t have to be placed on the diagonal. The swivel chairs can be placed at angles and can provide space to access the living area.

    Abby Marshall thanked JT7abcz
  • PRO
    2 days ago
    last modified: 2 days ago

    I really like the green “out of budget” chairs in the space. Does your budget allow for two of them? You can use them as host/hostess chairs at the ends and then get more budget friendly black wood chairs for the sides. Like this


    As far as the living room arrangement I will say I do not care for the angled arrangement . It has no focal point. I think cabinets with legs on either side of the fireplace will be fine.


    As far as the art. its subjective so really the answer to that is do you love it?

    Abby Marshall thanked Design Interior South
  • 2 days ago

    I'm glad to hear you say you like the chairs, DIS. Yes, I can get 4 and shave off somewhere else to make up for it. I have on order 2 alternatives. I'm waiting for them to arrive so I can compare with the one I have before committing to a set.

    The 2/4 arrangement is a good alternative as well. Thanks!


    After living with the angle for a few days I tend to agree, DIS. When we first moved in I had an ID design a floor plan and she angled the sofa. I had it angled for awhile and then moved to what JTabcz suggested. But I think your layout works best. Its easy to move stuff around right now cuz the room is practically empty.


    I ordered a small Fiezy Pearson rug to try. The one in your mood board. The Karastan Divina Sanctum Cream is on order, too. After trying many rugs, I see there needs to be a good balance of warm & cool. I'm not good at figuring out these things in my head.


    I don't love the art, but it works and I dont hate it. I thought it would be more colorful. It's REALLY hard to find this size (49 x 27), and framing is extremely expensive. I found this framed canvas for $139. The print and frame are better than average quality. The ocean theme is congruous with the Mangelsen. I'm inclined to leave it be for now, but I have 30 days to return it if I change my mind. If someone has a source for a 47 - 49" x 27-30" framed canvas please send me a link!

    I am diligently hunting for the cabinets to place next to the FP. I've used the "see it in your room" function that some online stores provide. Based upon the findings, a width of 38-42" and height of 72 - 82" (for the large wall) is most proportionate. And preferably a smaller one of the same finish and style, for the short FP wall.


  • 2 days ago


    I don't know if I'm crazy about the arch, but the size and price are great! 16.54"l x 39.37"w x 74.1"h . $583. Of course it must be assembled..... Modway Nolan


    Then there is this one, in stack at my local store: Ashley Radkin Display Cabinet; $1030

    (Aspenhome)

    Depth18.000 inches

    Height82.500 inches

    Width46.000 inches





    This one online at AFA: Emery Park - Sloane Door Bookcase in Mink Finish - I3327-332; $900

    Dimensions: 34W x 14D x 78H






    OR- Henry & Mason - Langley Row Door Bookcase - $1100

    Dimensions: 40W x 18D x 75H


    Can you please give me your opinions on these pieces for my space?



  • 2 days ago

    I love the arch ones too! I love one too and the last one that's starting at the top of my cell phone down scrolling

    Abby Marshall thanked happyleg
  • PRO
    2 days ago

    A very simple trick we use when working with a tight budget where custom art isn’t doable and there specific sizes needed is this. Split the size and do two prints. In your case it would be 23” x 27” leaving 3” between the two. You can find simple black frames or wood etc on amazon in this size. Go on Etsy and source digital/ PDF prints That come in that size or close to it. Better to get larger, you can always crop a portion of the piece down. Send that digital print into a printing source like Vista Print or others . Tell them to format the print to the size you want. You can allow for a 2-3” Matt which makes everything look better. Then go down to Hobby Lobby or Michael’s and have the matts cut. Generally you are all in for minimal cost and end up with some fantastic looking art pieces. If that is too much work order the frames and do the matting then order prints from a source and frame. Again you may have to size up to crop down.

    Abby Marshall thanked Design Interior South
  • yesterday
    last modified: yesterday

    Ahhhh!!!! Great trick!!!! I will do this!

  • yesterday

    All things considered, I may have decided on Sloane w mink finish by Aspenhouse. It's classic although I wish it was wider (it's 34"). So maybe not. Obviously I remain unsure - the bookcase/display case/storage case is such a large piece. It's not my fav of the group, but practical.


    I'm just not sure what to do on the other side of the FP. Maybe nothing, There isnt much wall space there,

  • yesterday

    Oh! And I have an appt set with the window-treatment peeps to get a quote on roman shades.

  • yesterday

    Abby, are these going to work with the vent on that wall? I understand they are not solid on the bottom but the vent is above the molding.

  • PRO
    23 hours ago

    If the vent is proving problematic you can always do floating cabinets with floating shelves above them.

    Abby Marshall thanked Design Interior South
  • PRO
    23 hours ago

    Oops the rendering didn’t attach

    Abby Marshall thanked Design Interior South
  • 20 hours ago

    They also make magnetic vent deflectors that will attach to the vent and blow the air downward so it can move out from under the furniture.

    Abby Marshall thanked katinparadise
  • 18 hours ago
    last modified: 17 hours ago

    DIS Our walls are plaster. I have nightmares every time anything heavier than a painting goes on the wall! The drapes have held up tho! The vent is proving to be not as problematic as I thought. I just am having trouble making a decision.

    I saw this today. Of course it is expensive, but... not out of reach. I'd love to hear your opinions. It looks very nice, but doesnt fufill much in the way of "storage".



    Moe's Home Collection Hannah Tall Cabinet in Black $1400

    Depth16.900 inches

    Height86.200 inches

    Width35.000 inches

  • 18 hours ago
    last modified: 17 hours ago

    other options:



    Riva Ridge (Aspenhome) in Mink $600

    epth14.000 inches

    Height78.000 inches

    Width34.000 inches



    Heirloom Home Gregory Bookcase in Flat Black - $550

    Depth18.000 inches

    Height84.000 inches

    Width36.000 inches


    Four Hands Sussex Bookcase in Smoked Black $3300

    Depth21.000 inches

    Height84.000 inches

    Width47.500 inches



    Whoops! Already pasted this one.


    Heirloom Home Mariss Bookcase in Flat Black $570

    Depth18.000 inches

    Height84.000 inches

    Width42.000 inches



  • 17 hours ago
    last modified: 17 hours ago

    So- 6 potential cabs that l've found and vetted for size and price.

    Price range $550 - $3300 (a big empty between $1500 and $3300). My local furniture store (Nebraska Furniture Mart) is having a big sale this weekend, so prices are about as low as they are going to get. I've checked against online stores.

    I'm seeing arched cabs everywhere- seems like it might be a short-lived trend but what do I know?

    Kait - I've used those in the past. Thanks for the reminder.

    Thanks to all for hanging in with me. It's very helpful! I'm having my right knee replaced on Oct 28; I'd like to have things in place before, so I do really appreciate all of your comments. My hubby just says "yeah, looks good" to almost everything so not much help :)

  • 17 hours ago

    DIS the rendering makes me so happy! Beautiful! and so symetrical... those chairs are marvelous.


  • 16 hours ago

    Here’s an inexpensive arched hutch.

  • 4 hours ago

    Rug size is the constraint, not the pattern.


    Table is 47" x 80". You want about 24" of rug past the table on all sides so chair legs stay on the rug when people sit down. That is roughly an 8' x 10' rug. A 9' x 12' will crowd the 9' run to the floor vents and you said those vents cannot be covered. Do not buy a rug that lands on the registers.


    Keep the rug under the table and chairs only. Do not run it to the art wall. That leaves a clear strip of floor, keeps the vents open, and stops the dining zone from swallowing the living room.


    For color: let the large art stay the loud piece. Choose a rug with one or two muted colors pulled from the painting, on a quieter ground. Busy all-over pattern plus big art plus new chairs will fight. Low-contrast pattern or a simple border works better in an open DR/LR.


    Chairs: match the table finish more than the rug. If the table is warm wood, a mid-tone wood or upholstered seat in a solid from the art is enough color. Patterned chairs and a patterned rug together usually look busy.


    A very narrow console under the 11' art wall is fine if it is shorter than the art and leaves the vents alone. Keep it shallow so chairs still pull out.


    If you are in Winnipeg and need the console anchored, vents left clear, or the rug area marked before you order, we can do that on site.

    The Handyman Winnipeg
    Winnipeg, MB
    431-816-2379
    https://www.thehandymanwinnipeg.ca/