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Live with a Mistake or Redo?

12 years ago
My husband forgot to make the upper cabinet doors (soon to have glass) match the tight center seams of the doors below. He wants to rebuild, I hate to see all that work go to waste. Can we live with it?

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  • 12 years ago
    I would redo them. He, if not you too, will always see it and wish he had taken care of it. Really nice job otherwise.
  • 12 years ago
    I could hardly tell. In a month you (and all your guests) won't even notice.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
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    I vote for the redo. It appears your husband was trying to keep the spacing between the doors and the draws and doors uniform. It is a combination of a partial overlay look and full overlay look. See the full overlay picture below. These are frameless cabinets meaning they do not have a face frame. Note how the 1/8" spacing is between all edges of the cabinets. It gives a very clean look and all the surfaces are on the same plane. When you try to get a full overlay look with face framed cabinets you can do so to a degree but it can be hard to make all the spacing uniform. You can claim success in this if the space between the doors and doors and drawers are the same around a 1/4" and the outer edges of a run of cabinets are uniform, around an inch. Also the rollout above the refrigerator would look best, in my opinion, if it had a drawer front on it. I'd say your husband is very close to a perfect job. He should be very proud of his craftsmanship and you should be very proud of him.
  • 12 years ago
    I would leave them. If you hadn't mentioned it, no one would even notice it. Especially because there's a little more reveal between the single cabinet door on the left, and the left door of the double cabinet, just by virtue of them being separate boxes. So since that little extra space is normal and fine, I think the upper spacing is even less noticeable and not objectionable at all. Beautiful cabinets!
  • 12 years ago
    I can't see the difference. Now I'm going to go nuts looking.
  • 12 years ago
    What goof? I think you can leave it.
  • 12 years ago
    You could add a center stile and trim the doors a bit rather then redoing the entire thing. I've also seen dummy stiles attached to one door.
  • 12 years ago
    I really think it's ok as is.
  • 12 years ago
    I think I see it. I never would have if you hadn't told me. I would have no trouble living with it. In fact, they're so beautiful, I actually would like to live with it.
  • 12 years ago
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    Can't you just adjust the doors on the top cabinets (in to the center) or are they actually 1/8" or so narrower than the lower doors? It is not very noticeable....but if it is going to drive your hubby crazy then redo it.
  • 12 years ago
    I don't see any reason to redo them, but if your husband is like mine, it will eat at him until you let him redo it so I'd let him, and get it over with.
  • 12 years ago
    Mackmiller, the pullout over fridge does have a front, just haven't got to it yet.
  • 12 years ago
    Maximista, the upper doors have a 3/4 inch gap between them. The cabinets below, have a gap of less than a 1/4" and they should both be the same.
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    Personally, I don't think I'd be bothered by this as long as the lines are straight. I'd at least live with it for awhile to see if I noticed it after a few months. But my husband would be driven crazy by it if the mistake were his, and he'd insist on redoing it. So if it is going to drive your DH crazy, let him do it. But let him know you are not bothered by the difference--at least not at this time.
  • 12 years ago
    I thought he could just tack on a piece to inside side of each door to make it work, but then he said the knobs won't be centered. I keep saying its a kitchen, not perfection! I suspect he'll redo them.
  • 12 years ago
    I hope he had a fabulous Valentine's day because he deserves it. I see it and you should leave it up to him as it is his work and he should be pleased with it. I am assuming the glass will be reused, and the frames are the only thing being wasted.

    You are a very, very lucky girl.
  • 12 years ago
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    Perfectionist husbands like yours (and mine) are a treasure. So while there may be a few drawbacks to this temperament, I'd much rather let him redo the mistake than have a husband who was sloppy and didn't care about details.
  • 12 years ago
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    I suggest he try with the stiles and shaving the door. It will be less visually noticeable then he is thinking for that small amount. At worst he spends 5 minutes ripping the doors and tacking in a false stile to see. Your talking about 3/8" tops which is a bit more then 1/4" per door.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    If it were my house I would rebuild the doors.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    From the pictures you posted, I don't think it would bother me because you're dealing with two different types of doors. It would be more noticeable if they were both solid doors but put something bright colored behind the glass doors and no one except you and your hubby will notice the door spacing. If you want to further distract the eye, consider adding lighting inside the cabinets and/or painting the back cabinet wall a colorful accent color.

    I buy and rehab foreclosed homes. We bought one house which had been owned by a small contractor who tended to have many, many items in his house and was always short of storage. So, over time he added more cabinets to the existing kitchen, including a full height pantry cabinet when he removed the chimney. In total, there are four different door styles in that kitchen...two different profiles of arched top doors, and two styles of rectangular panelled doors.

    I was in that house several times before I noticed the doors were different since everything was painted white; the only stand out cabinet was the one which had never been painted. I had noticed there was "something off" in the space but it actually took me a while to figure out what was unusual.

    Most every visitor to your house won't notice the difference in door spacing. Of those who do notice, many of them will think it was either planned that way or that the glass doors weren't available in exactly the same widths as the solid doors.

    if it bothers your husband and he's the one who will be fixing the problem, then don't stop him from taking care of the issue. I would wait a few months and reevaluate the situation, but if it really eats at him, he'll have to fix it or be permanently bugged every time he walks into the room.
  • 12 years ago
    I would not have noticed it either if you hadn't pointed it out. What an ordeal to redo! I agree with Maximista, my husband is a home builder and we have built all of our own homes. In every single one, something didn't turn out the way I had planned and I thought I could not live with it. Then we give it a few months and I forgot about most of them. Not all of them. You find out over time what you really can't live with, then if it still bothers you, fix it. No hurry.
  • 12 years ago
    Holy smokes..I am really observant and I still have no idea what you are talking about. Definitely don't waste the time. Force him to leave it for at least 3 months or so. It's amazing how therapeutic just a little time can be...
  • 12 years ago
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    I managed the kitchen design centre for IKEA for many years. I see the "mistake". It is small and very few people are ever going to notice. However, it is noticeable to you and to a pro. Likely after time you will forget all about it

    If you don't want to make new doors there is a way to correct this problem. You have what looks like an1/8inch difference. You can't make the uppers wider but you can make the lowers narrower. You do that by taking a little off of both sides (left and right edges) of each door. You are taking 1/32 (1/8 divided by 4) from each edge. Then repaint them. You then adjust the hinge placement to move the doors away from the center. There is no way even the most critical eye will ever spot the slight 1/32 difference in the width of the side rail frames. This is especially true if you put glass in them as it will create a different look.

    Later note:
    I'm glad to hear he is redoing it. Frankly I would have done so also. The quality of his work is very impressive. There is not point doing anything if one is not going to do it to the best of one's ability.


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  • 12 years ago
    Your kitchen looks nice. What would bother me more than the "gap" is the upper and lower cabinets not lining up vertically. The upper cabinets look wider., hence the doors aren't aligned. But that's just me, I like symmetry.
  • 12 years ago
    I would love some advice on a colour scheme as this is looking dated . I like neutrals but really looking to add some street appeal
  • 12 years ago
    @imsooverit, delete your comment. It is not relevant here and you already have another post with your question. Hit the X beside your comment to delete
  • 12 years ago
    It's up to you. Beautiful job. Love your ceiling.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Most would not notice unless you pointed it out but if any are like myself i notice all lines in a house no matter if it's a joint in the trim work or grout lines in the tile. I would say fix it now so you don't ever have to revisit the subject again. Nice looking kitchen by the way.
  • 12 years ago
    Condo Mary, yeah, my husband isn't happy about that either. Some line up and some don't. I think he was cabinet weary when he made these. He's going to fix them luckily only four need to be redone.
  • 12 years ago
    Linda, there is lighting and paint planned for the glass doir cabinets, just haven't got to them yet. It's on the list! :-)
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks everyone for the input. My fabulous husband is going to rebuild the four doors that need it. I'm happy about it, and he insists it's no big deal. I am one lucky woman! We are nearing the finish line on this remodel. I'll post before and after pics when we are done!
  • 12 years ago
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    I knew he would redo it. You can tell with the lovely quality of his work that he is a perfectionist and I am sure living with it would have driven him crazy. Your kitchen is beautiful.
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks! We've been working on it since October. The ceiling was under ugly cardboard tiles. Once we exposed it, we knew we had to keep it. Used a pickling stain.
  • 12 years ago
    Hard to believe someone covered that up with hideous cardboard tiles. The pickling looks great. When you finish you should post in before and after so people can see the transformation. I really like your choice of backsplash too.
  • 12 years ago
    Can you send him to my house when he's done there?
  • 12 years ago
    It's nice. Nice place to show off things.