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First garden questions

17 years ago

Greeting all!

I am about to start my first garden. I've helped my mom while growing up with a veggie garden, but I handled more of the manual labor. :-)

I live on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, and my wife has picked up some Burpee seeds of what she would like (me) to grow.

She got:

* Cucumber - Sweet Burpless Hybrid

* Tomato - Super sweet 100 Hybrid

* Carrot - Sweet Salad Hybrid

* Spinach - Baby's Leaf Hybrid

* Pepper - California Wonder

* Cantaloupe - Hearts of Gold

* Strawberries (still have to buy)

I have a few questions that I would greatly appreciate any insight.

I am planning to put the garden in the corner of our fenced in backyard which will have sun about 80-90% of the day. It was become shaded towards the evening as the sun sets.

Here is a picture of the backyard (pic was taken prior to fence being completed). I am thinking of making a longer and narrower garden.

http://i41.tinypic.com/24myexk.jpg

The backyard is complete with irrigation system but I may run a dedicated hose/sprinkler to the garden to better isolate the watering.

Question #1) I am not sure how wide and long to make the garden for starters. IÂd like to plant the seeds in row(s) by veggie so that they are together. Probably would have the tomatoes at the end of the garden by the tree line so the sun wouldnÂt block the other veggies.

Question #2) Any recommendations to laying down a raised wooden border around the garden? I know it would make grass cutting a little easier, and also give me the option of adding some good soil and till it up. I have a 26" tiller.

Question #3) Plan of attack on the planting. I know that the peppers and tomatoes need to be started inside, and weÂve bought everything to help start that. The tomatoes say to start 6-8 weeks before planning to move outside, and the peppers also say 8 weeks. Should I just make life easier and keep them both on the same schedule and keep both inside for 8 weeks? IÂve heard different answers to the question when to plant the seeds outside what do you do?

I really appreciate your time and thoughts. I look forward to learning more, and hopefully someday offering my advice to the site.

Comments (8)

  • 17 years ago

    looks like a big yard.

    i would be inclined to lay the bed so the sun goes across it side to side.

    we use raised beds the no-till style, we have pic's and description on our site there may be some ideas there for you?

    len

    Here is a link that might be useful: lens garden page

  • 17 years ago

    Just a tip - whatever your layout of the timbers, be sure not to make any bed wider than 3 feet so that you can reach the center from both sides without having to trod on the garden soil. It's an important consideration.

  • 17 years ago

    And on the peppers - they actually take closer to 10 weeks to be ready to transplant and the tomato plants will be ready to go out well before then as cherry varieties grow quite quickly. So start the peppers first. Soil temps are important for peppers, more so than for tomatoes, so plan to not transplant the peppers until a couple of weeks AFTER the tomatoes have gone to the garden and the soil has warmed to 75 degrees.

    Soil temps are important for all vegetables and each has their ideal rage. It would be helpful to do some research on that issue - spinach and the strawberries will be your first plantings - and buy a cheap bulb thermometer you can stick 4-6" down into the ground to measure the temps.

    Good luck. ;)

    Dave

  • 17 years ago

    I was in the same position last year, except I basically knew absolutely nothing about gardening at all. I learned a lot by asking questions here, and by using the MD Extension Office's website. Its got lots of good stuff. I added a link to it here.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Maryland Extension Office

  • 17 years ago

    You are getting some good advice here. Don't make the beds wider than you can comfortably reach into without stepping on the growing area. My own beds are 3' wide though some people are OK with 4'.

    Reading up at your state extension service is also good advice as they know when what should be planted and other locally important information.

    I agree with Dave that what the seed packet says and how long things take sometimes varies. I would agree most peppers are going to be at a better transplant size if you start them 10 weeks before you expect to plant them outside.

    For tomatos 4 weeks may be enough if you have HID lighting otherwise 5-6. They are a bit tricky to time right because they seem to take forever and then one day they just start growing like mad. Start too early and you can have 3' tall plants indoors and not enough light coverage. The good news is that you can still work with the plants. What I do in such a case is I dig a trench about 6" deep and lay the plant in it and bury all but the top 6". The plant will curl the tip upward and resume growing and will form roots along the buried stem.

    If you are going to border the beds with wood and grass will be on the other side, please install some plastic edging underground as well. If you don't do this you may end up with the grass growing into the beds from below. It is a pain to get rid of once this happens.

  • 17 years ago

    Thank you all for your thoughts! Very helpful!!

    Appreciate any other thoughts out there.

  • 17 years ago

    My 2 cents worth

    1. Growing tomotoes and peppers from seeds is tough. I purchase plants when I am ready to plant.

    2. I would plant some buttercrunch lettuce as well. Makes a wonderful salad with the spinach.

    3. Do you have rabbits in your yard? They love the spinach in my garden but leave the lettuce alone.

    4. Squirrels love tomatoes just as they are getting ripe.

  • 17 years ago

    rgress:
    Growing peppers and tomatoes from seed is actually not very tough. I suppose buying seedlings is easier though. The downside to purchasing seedlings is twofold; 1) They are much more expensive and 2) You are limited to the varieties that the store carries. I also really enjoy growing seedlings so the choice is an easy one for me.

    theprez9: Seedlings can get out of hand really fast. I'd go with the lower estimate (ie 6 weeks before last frost for the tomatoes, not 8)

    Jon