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Seed Starting - What are we doing wrong?

13 years ago

Two years in row my wife and I have tried starting seeds inside to help ensure a good start to the growing season. Last year we think we started too late, so everything was tiny when it got transplanted. This year we started seeds in mid February, but most seedlings are still pretty small. We used a seed starting mix and we've been very careful to water them appropriately. Three weeks ago I started using Miracle-Gro's "Quick Start - Planting and transplant starting solution" (4-12-4). We indeed saw some growth, but not as much as I would have expected for 3 weeks. (I was very careful about mixing according the the instructions on the bottle - 1 cap per gallon.) Some of the plants (tomatoes, beans, peppers and basil) seemed healthy until they were transplanted, and I'll admit that transplanting can be a little rough, but there were few roots holding the soil together. Nothing like the plants I'd get from the nursery. The flowers we planted from seed are leggy with long stems (1-2") and 4 leaves each. None of them are able to stand up on their own (dianthus, scabiosa, & carnation). What in the world are we doing wrong? I guess I'll have to go back to direct sow gardening ...

Thanks!

Comments (8)

  • 13 years ago

    Are you using grow lights/shop lights and keeping the seedlings an appropriate distance from the light? That was a problem I had (floppy seedlings) until I learned that they should be a few inches from light.

  • 13 years ago

    If you started in mid February, your seedlings should be small. If they are spindly, too warm and not enough light. Tomatoes should be almost big enough, but peppers take a considerably more time.

  • 13 years ago

    Suggest you go over to the Growing from Seed forum here and browse through all the how-to FAQs and the many discussions going on there right now about how to do this.

    Meanwhile I strongly suggest you stop fertilizing them so that the roots can develop rather than trying to force top growth and cut your watering down substantially. Poor root development is a classic symptom of over-watering.

    Dave

    Here is a link that might be useful: Growing from Seed forum

  • 13 years ago

    Wait until the plants have at least 3 sets (sets, aka pairs or whorls or whatever node pattern they have) of "true" (not the cotyledons, initial "leaves", feeder leaves) leaves to transplant...4-5 if your container or time dictates it.

    I wouldn't even bother fertilizing, even a diluted amount, until it shows the first set of true leaves...and like noted above, you don't need to do it a often, especially if you're not over-watering.

    The top-heavy leggy seedlings + shallow root system is a recipe for disaster...especially if you haven't hardened them off (slowly acclimating them to outside conditions). Bring your light source closer to the seedlings grown indoors to lessen the legginess.

    This post was edited by nc-crn on Tue, Apr 9, 13 at 17:10

  • 13 years ago

    Also, add a fan to your setup, it helps develop stiffness in the stems and also gets them not develop windburn as easily when hardening off.

  • 13 years ago

    Last year in May, I transplanted my Tomatoes. It is still fairly cool in my climate in May. My Tomatoes I transplanted as a plant looked very sickly and pathetic. I was very close to digging them up, and throwing them out. Then in June some time, they perked right up and started growing nicely. I got 100 Tomatoes from those two plants.

  • 13 years ago

    Very interesting info guys. The seed-starting kit I've used mentioned how to plant, water, and when to remove the plastic lid that keeps in some moisture and heat to help the seeds germinate. It never mentions when to move my seedlings outside so I guess that's the bit step I've been missing.

    I'm not using any type of additional light source, just what it gets from a window. I'll eliminate the fertilizer and start hardening them off tomorrow. I've got a spot outside that should be pretty good.

    I've thought about the fan and I'll keep that in mind for next year. I'll also look into an alternate light source when they're inside.

    I'll also check out the link that Dave posted.

    Thanks again guys!

    --Jonathan

  • 13 years ago

    You need shop lights. Windows just don't give enough light to grow strong seedlings. I use a wire shelf unit from target ($39) and hang 2 shop lights (Home Depot) per shelf and keep adjusting them so they are only a couple linches away from the plants. I have this in my basement where it is probably about 60 degrees. I also use diluted seaweed/fish emulsion when they have a set of true leaves. When i get the tomatoes going I add an oscillating fan.
    Keski

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