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Need ideas for low cost update of this facade

14 years ago
We could always recover this brick with ledgestone, but I'm trying to figure out a good way to paint the brick and get a very clean sophisticated look. Think Coastal Living or Sunset Magazine.

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  • 14 years ago
    ourfarmhouse, once again you have nailed it -- and with photos! Stunning! I hope Bruce likes it.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Super cute ourfarmhouse, love the blue shutters...instant beach!
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Ourfarmhouse, great ideas, I really appreciate them. I'll be sure to post pics of the finished project in late July.
  • 14 years ago
    Ourfarmhouse, this is a really super transformation. It will probably make the entire neighborhood jealous as well and increase property values. Looks so fresh and invigorating!!! Well done! (I hope the owners do this)
  • 14 years ago
    Genious Ourfarmhouse..!!! The depth of your creativity seems to know no bounds. Any style, any problem.. you have a solution. Looking forward to seeing the finished update by Bruce.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    You can stucco directly over the brick.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Dead On Ourfarmhouse! Couldn't be any better.
  • 14 years ago
    Love the Bahamas look. Maybe you can just whitewash the brick so you don't have to worry about peeling paint or the expense of siding.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Curve ball: Islands in the Los Angeles market doesn't mean Caribbean, it means Hawaiian, which is a more muted look. The light blue wouldn't work as it takes the design a little too far in a particular aesthetic direction that some buyers may not like. The home is for resale and we need to be tasteful and yet appeal to a broad demographic, practical. So we either need to go with a different color blue (something more muted), or possibly a slightly different take on the same concept: Paint the brick a sand color, paint the new siding/shingles above a complimentary sand color, do all the trim and shutters in bright white and the door and minor accents (lighting, mailbox etc) in black. Thoughts?
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    If you really are after "clean and sophisticated" you will want to pick a single neutral color and paint the brick, siding and eaves the same. The house will then have a modern feel. I just helped a friend with a similar house. We painted everything SW Requisite Grey with a light reflectance value of 46. It is a beautiful pearl color. (Front door is slightly darker.) But you can select any neutral greyed color for the same effect, whether dark, medium or light in tone. (Easy hint: look at Sherwin Williams Essentials, Fundamentally Neutral and most of Concepts in Color collections.) Just don't pick something that will make the roof stand out.

    You really do not need that railing, since the porch is on the ground...get rid of it, it is not beneficial to the appearance.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Bruce, I am in the Los Angeles area (Pasadena) and I hear what you're saying. I still think the concept is great proposed by ourfarmhouse, just change the color of the shutters. I think stain grade, a medium brown, would give you that Hawaiian look you speak of. The plants would really define the rest of the look you want.
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    I like this color shutter for a tropical feel...
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    Hope that helps. Charmean
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Michael & Charmean, great comments.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Michael, can you post a photo of the home you're referring to?
  • 14 years ago
    I would paint the entire house the same color. I think it would make it seem larger. Use maybe an earthy color and use white trim. I would also take out the iron work on the front porch and use wood instead.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Any suggestions on inexpensive vendors for the Bahama style shutters? You can assume we'd paint, not stain.
  • 14 years ago
    We have some little shotgun rental houses here in Florida. I made these Bahama shutters for less than $75. I just made a frame out of 1 x material.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    For your area I suggest you paint both the siding and the brick a medium buff color, add some foundation plantings and perhaps some window boxes in a medium dark grey filled with blooming plants and cascading greens. Good luck and please post progress photos! :)
  • 14 years ago
    So here is more transitional Hawaiian-style...

    1. Stucco over the bricks and where board and batten are. Paint the body somewhere between a warm white and a tan. (You could get by with just painting the bricks and siding, but I went more purist. I referenced a lot of Hawaiian houses with stucco and stained wood.)

    2. Mock pillar forms are added above the brick in all the corners and some midway (like between the windows to the far left). These would be the same depth as the brick to help give the top half of the house more depth and to make it feel like you didn't just stucco over the brick. These are also stucco.

    3. New modern lights on each of these pillars are added (again, something I saw on a lot of Hawaiian houses.)

    3. Trim gets stained (again, more purist...but could just be painted brown)

    4. Bahama shutters get painted gloss black. The contrast in color and sheen help it to feel richer and more transitional.

    5. New Hawaiian-style wooden door with black hardware is added.

    6. Porch posts go away, and the porch roof is now supported by wooden brackets.

    7. A low, one-step deck is added as a landing spot to welcome guests and add square footage to a seemingly small house.

    8. House is staged with modern zinc planters and modern deck furniture to further push it to the transitional style (modern meets traditional).

    ...This approach would be more expensive than the first two versions, but you could mix and match some elements from each to keep the price down.

    The style could feel right at home in Hawaii, but it could also feel Spanish, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. There are some overlaps in style (stucco, exposed structural elements, stained wood.)

    Anyhoo, here it is...
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Ourfarmhouse, you're the mock up king! Nice one...again.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    I don't live anywhere near warm weather or the ocean so it's great to see the various 'tropical`styles from ourfarmhouse.
  • 14 years ago
    Love reading all the suggestions. I live in the Los Angeles area and think
    Ourfarmhouse suggestion rocks. If you want to change the color of the shutters go sage green.
    Great ideas from everyone. Please post pix when it's finished!
  • 14 years ago
    I think the single rich neutral in the gray / taupe family, a strong front door in a chartreuse, and mostly tall grasses planted with some large spikey succulents and the dark burgandy ones for weight.
  • 14 years ago
    ourfarmhouse, you are awesome!I love all of your suggestions. I think it is fabulous that you are so willing to give people on here so many suggestions and take the time to do mock-ups.
  • 14 years ago
    ourfarmhouse can u help me w/ my exterior??? how do i contact you? rates? los angeles area at the border of so. pas/alhambra/l.a. off of huntington/kendall
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Mark Davidson, could I get closer photos and or some tips on building those Bahama shutters?
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    wow, love the drawings ourfarmhouse! You are so creative! Love the beach look that you did to Bruce's home, so inviting.
  • 14 years ago
    Yes Bruce, I'll look for some close ups this weekend. Ideally, you would just be able to find shutters that fit. Once you get over 15" in width, shutters get more custom and expensive. We ordered our real wood shutters from ebay for around $50 per pair and extended them to fit using 1 x 3s on the ends and one down the middle. We braced the back with 1 x 2s going horizontal and bought hinges off ebay as well. We primed and painted with a sprayer to get a nice finish.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    I was actually thinking about going a similar route. Were the shutters you built around wood, or vinyl?
  • 14 years ago
    Wood, ours were under the front porch and should last a long time without being pressure treated. We primed and painted with exterior products.
  • 14 years ago
    Hopefully you can see in this image how we did it. We surrounded the shutters (not built on top of) with 1" material cut to fit.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Yes I think it's great looking. Who did you buy them from? Were the shutters you built around "off the rack" or custom? How long did they take to get? Thanks very much!
  • 14 years ago
    I got them from hiostl on ebay. Here's a link to the 15" x 39"s I got: http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-x-39-Wood-Louvered-Shutter-Fixed-/250825731640?pt=US_Shutters&hash=item3a6660ee38

    They're off the shelf for $50 with free shipping. It just took a few days to arrive.

    Our windows were about 36" so we needed to add six inches in width and a little to the height as well.

    I think there are some 18" wide shutters out there in real wood, but they were quite a bit more when I was looking.
  • 14 years ago
    The shutter hinges were from another seller on ebay and were $6.99 for the pair with free shipping. We used galvanized screws to assemble everything and drilled a small pilot hole first to keep the wood from splitting.

    So, to be exact, they'll cost you $56.99 per window not counting the 1" stock around the edges along with paint and your time.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Brilliant! I ordered them today.
  • 14 years ago
    OMG can someone here help me too? My house exterior is positively hideous, I'm not kidding.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Charmean, thank you very much. Since we don't get hurricane weather here (just earthquakes) it wasn't cost effective at over $200 per shutter or timely (4 weeks for delivery) to go this route. However with some advice from Mark Davidson we believe we've found a low cost way to build our own strictly cosmetic all wood Bahama Shutter for about $40 each. I'll post photos soon.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Well the project is 99% done and we already have 2 offers within 48 hours of the first open house. One month renovation, total cost including all labor 40k. I want to thank everyone for there suggestions. Here is a link to the before and after photos. http://sequoiainvestmentpartners.com/Research/Article/1653
  • 14 years ago
    Love the new porch railing and plantings. This is a real testament to the power of painted brick!
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    That is quite a success story Bruce. Thank you for sharing the before and after shots. I love to see everyone's input in real time. Good luck and on to the next one.
    Charmean Neithart
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Excellent news Bruce. Thanks for the update.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Love knowing the result. Can't wait to see your next project.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    This is what we do in both apartments and single family, fast, efficient stylish turnarounds that offer a good value to the new buyer and a good return to our investors.
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  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Hi, we have a new project and I'm giving away a $100 gift card, to the store of your choice, if anyone can come up with some great colors for the exterior of a home in Laurel Canyon. Sorry these pictures aren't that great. The canyon and surrounding trees don't allow this home to get much sunlight so we really want to lighten it up. The front steps are a light tan travertine and the $100,000 pool in the back has stone that is the same color and changing that is not cost effective. The wood on the garage doors will be replaced and can be stained or painted. All ideas are welcome.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Looks so interesting. Can you provide a couple more views?
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    I'll post more today or tomorrow under the separate discussion for that house
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    more LC pictures
  • 13 years ago
    Amazing job! All the photos in the link show how much work went into the reno.
  • PRO
    10 years ago

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