Ive wanted Szukis for a while, but it seems to sell out before I even see its offered each year (I swear it is sold out as soon as the new prices are listed at nolin river...)

~Chills

I planted Elmo at my (ex) Mother in Law's 2 years back. I did get visitation rights in the divorce, though.

I would like to try a few of these in Georgia. I would graft a scion onto a native that is growing on the edge of a pine clearing. Can you or someone you know spare two or three bud sticks? I can send you a self adressed bubble envelope and postage stamps.

This past year squirrels plundered my American persimmon crop with unusual greediness, and my response of early harvesting of the fruit was only marginally successful as the fruit did not ripen so well off the trees. I am hoping this squirrel activity was an aberration rather than a trend.

I would have to agree with your thumbs down assessment of Evelyn. Each year I expect a better fruit from this tree, but to be honest, as you mention, it falls short of a number of other varieties. It's late, it loses its astringency slowly, the pulp is somewhat mealy and its sweetness and flavor are mediocre. The squirrels seem to leave it alone, which of course is a good thing, though I can't help interpreting that as just another confirmatory nay. I will be topworking it this year probably with a kaki.

I really like Yates - among the best for flavor with bright orange speckled pulp and reasonable productivity, but a squirrel magnet. Not so early for me with NC10 and Osage a full month earlier. Ruby has been about the same size as Yates but ripening later and not as tasty.
My largest American persimmon overall this year came in at 2 3/8 inch diameter, roughly the size of a Great Wall kaki.

I finally got my first Garretson this year. I picked it a bit too early. I'll have to wait a bit next year. I had several Early Goldens and they were good. I even harvested some seedlings from a park and let them gradually ripen in unheated storage. Most of them ripened. Some rotted. It was another low heat year here, so only the early ones ripen in our climate. I grafted Szukis and NC-10, so it will be awhile til I can eat them. I believe my American chestnut trees pollinated my persimmons because they were all seedless. I don't think the squirrels know what the persimmons are yet, but some birds tried to eat them. I am thinking about using cages for the squirrels, as they eat a lot of my fruit.

I will say that Meader and Early GOlden both taste really good. Ruby does too, but in a lot of years, they won't ripen properly, so I wouldn't recommend it for a northern/coastal/low heat environment.
John S
PDX OR

My Meader produces about 1/4th seedless fruit. They are much smaller than the ones with seeds, but so nice to eat that way. If they had no pollen source, no doubt they would all be seedless, but I have 2 large mature wild male persimmons from seed that, while useless as fruit trees in other respects, pollinate my seedling wild female but, more importantly to me, are really nice trees in prominent and critical spots in my landscape, so they are staying until such time as Mother Nature takes them out. I just wish they didn't send up bazillions of suckers, but that's just how they roll.

I planted 2 'Prok' in the spring of 2010 that I got in fall of 09 from Stark and overwintered in the garage the first winter. Had ONE little fruit on my 3 foot Prok this fall -- it blew me away. That one was seedless, about twice the total mass of my largest Meader, but more impressively to me, much earlier, ripening mid-late October, and tasted to me much more like an Asian persimmon. I think I'm going to LOVE my Prok.