According to Facciola, Cornucopia II (1998, Kampong Publications, Vista) A.I Eppler Ltd., Seattle listed superior cultivar 'Cream' - which he brought in himself from Russia. I see no indication of Eppler selling plants at this time, but you might try contacting him through his flute web site to see if he can offer any assistance.

wellll.. this is a first.. more info under a common name ...

WAG .... i have no background .. but just spent a few minutes googling for you

check out the link

if you mail order a tree ... the next proper time for planting would be fall ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

Thanks bboy and Ken, I've been in Arizona for a year and have been trying to plan things out for the fall. I may have to settle for the cultivar trademarked 'Yellow' which is highly regarded for fruit quality and (gasp) easy to find! A local university uses Cornus mas as hedging... I have been in love with the flavor ever since.

why dont you contact the horticultural or landscape departments at the univ. and see if they have volunteers.. or can recommend some other options ...

or is syracuse an old GW members page info ... i am so confused ... lol ..or is it syracuse AZ???? ... i give up ...

ken

The "volunteers" from the campus trees will be comprising the hedge. With the parent plants all being tasty I figure it's a good gene pool for the seedlings, which the maintenance staff is happy to see removed for them (I've already gotten permission from the school). I was being a bit confusing regarding my location...I took a year to get another BS from Arizona State (Plant Biology, of course) and have just returned to tending the collection in upstate NY. The LONG zone 5/6 winters make this species very happy. A white fruited cornelian-cherry would make be an awesome accent for the end of the hedge and entrance to our orchard. I would also love to shock people when they try some of the colorless "cherry" jelly from the fruits...even though it is not true cherry...but I digress...

I can't believe they gave them to you - that is so awesome! What a great end to the story. :)

I have a stunning cornus mas tree in my yard and there is nothing comparable in my "favorites" department. It is a multi-trunked model of perfection. It took me two years to figure out what the durn thing was (pre-GW days for me), as it is not a common nursery tree - though that is changing.

Do you happen to have a photo of it/them/whatever? I'm curious if it gets the same size, habit, etc. My tree is approx 20x20 and looks like Keebler elves should live in it. LOL

I would LOOOOOOVE to do a small shrub of another variety but don't know if "small" and "shrub" can happen w/ cornus mas?

I got a bunch of seedlings of Cornus koreana from the arb at UC Davis, I spread them around to my landscape jobs and friends & wonderful tree. Anyway, glad to hear a superior tree is being used and loved and they were willing to give them away.

Dan

Yeah they were just babies coming up in the mulch with all of the weeds, so they just get destroyed anyway. I pretty much just walked up to the planting and gently uprooted them, put them in a ziploc with some moisture or wet paper towel, and re-potted at home until they will be ready for planting. Takes about two seconds and indeed, helps make the mulch beds look well-kept.

Check out this photo- it's the best I could find: http://www.esf.edu/welcome/campus/

The planted walkway on the right side of the photo (on the map between Moon Library and Marshall Hall) is where the Cornelian-Cherries are. There is a second planting on the North side of Bray Hall as well, although it is not visible in the photo. I have seen good pics of the plants in flower on the main university webpage but couldn't find any just now. The ones near Bray usually produce the most seedlings and that's where mine are from.

The majority of the hits I got in my internet searches for 'Alba' trace back to a University of Florida publication on the cultivar. It mentions that there are a few nurseries that are producing it (hopefully mail order!). I think I'll be giving their Alachua extension office a call in the very near future.

If you find a source for 'Alba'...would you please post? Would love a seedling!

Such a cultivar would have to be grown from cuttings or grafts and not from seed to be relied upon to be true to type, and would not be as cheap as a seedling.

I wonder if any of these growers were instead listing Cornus alba.

But wait...what will pteroceltis's "volunteers" be....who knows? Or..?

So it is a hybrid, as opposed to a species...or genera...or subgenera or... (help me out here on lingo)?

The seedlings, being open-pollinated Cornus mas, would just be the typical species. No hybridity. They will be used as a hedgerow and complemented with a couple of cultivars selected for their quality of fruit. Thus my interest in the white-fruited clone- as an accent.

My searches have yielded nothing but an account from the Arnold that they had one. I suspect BBoy is correct and that a grower mistook the white-fruited Cornelian-Cherry clone with the much confused Cornus alba so widespread in commerce. Looks like I will have to settle for the fruiting clone 'Yellow' that a handful of nurseries are offering.

I never heard of a white fruiting Cornus mas. There are however cultivars with white/yellow varigated foilage. Perhaps that is old news for you.

I can tell you one thing though even if there was a white fruiting C. mas I'd suspect the fruit wouldn't be noticable as it would be hidden by the foilage.

pteroceltis - it sounds like you are involved with some sort of Gardens? Is this a public or private establishment? Either way, you might try contacting Arnold to see if it would be possible to you to acquire some cuttings from their tree next early summer. Not knowing where you are located exactly, maybe a drive over to get the cuttings(they would need to be stabilized with a moist, cool procedure) and to take in the arboretum. Face to face contact does wonders sometimes. I would still contact them in advance though. Arboretums are sometime more willing to share if approached in the right way.

I would love to add Cornus mas 'Alba' to my Cornelian cherry collection of plants in my yard. The red fruited varieties make an amazing liqueur and very flavorful jam. I am hoping my yellow fruited tree will produce fruit within the next two years.