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Baretta St. Bourbon

14 years ago

I said I had information on "Baretta St. Bourbon," offered in the Vintage Fall Release list. Here 'tis:

Att. is the photo we used for the 2008 Rose Sale catalog for the Sacramento City Cemetery -- and here is what I know of it:

"Baretta Street Bourbon"

Found in Sonora, this rose is a wonder in the cemetery garden. Blooming repeatedly from spring through late fall, it�s soft "peach-leaf" foliage is disease free and fragrant.

Two of this rose grow together here, and they are at times the only roses blooming, showing off, even through the heat of summer (Oh, this is why we love such roses!). A very lovely rose, and a survivor of California�s historic past. Visit "Baretta Street Bourbon" at: 51N/52SW

If I had a place for it, I would order this rose. It's a good demonstration of why we save Old Roses. :-)

Jeri

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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I planted this rose a month ago. Here's what I've learned--

    1. It smells like a noisette. Can hardly distinguish the fragrance from Blush Noisette. It has the musk scent, not the damask scent, which disappoints me.

    2. It is a cluster bloomer, consistent with the photo above.

    3. Mine is lighter pink than the photo above. I'd call it medium-light cool pink rather than red. This may change with age.

    4. It is very vigorous. Has easily tripled in size since planting. Grows up and out but not a very full bush.

    5. LOVES shade.

    6. Absolutely no disease. Not a hint of blackspot, extremely healthy foliage.

    7. The flowers are small, maybe 2" diameter. This, too, may change with age.

    I am in North Central Florida. It's been raining every day for the past two weeks and this little rose seems to love it.

    I don't think it's a bourbon.

    Comments (19)

    • 14 years ago

      Thanks for Sharing Jeri. If the color is accurate, it looks like a candy apple red? I put it down as my first alternate when I submitted my order earlier, now I wish I had put it down as a first choice rose. Very beautiful :)

      Tammy

    • 14 years ago

      IIRC, the color is similar to that of 'Gloire des Rosomanes,' which I think is gorgeous. I hope you get it.

      Jeri

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    • 14 years ago

      So, the mature height of this rose would be . . . . ?????

    • 8 years ago

      Mine has also been disease free. It does have a damask smell to me, though with some spice. Blush Noisette doesn't have the same smell to my nose. Interesting.

    • 8 years ago

      If you both have photos, I'd love to see them! Carol

    • 8 years ago

      No photos yet, I will try to remember to get one next time it blooms.

    • 8 years ago

      Thank you, Needsmulch! Carol

    • 8 years ago

      Cedemas -- I would like to have photos -- this rose really should be red. It's considered to be a double form of 'Gloire des Rosomanes' which is red.

    • 8 years ago

      Here it is. I blocked out my neighbor's house from across the street.

    • 8 years ago

      Well, I have a Ragged Robin that sometimes blooms pink in the spring -- so it's possible. But later blooms really should be red.
      Can you show me the leaves?

    • 8 years ago
      last modified: 8 years ago

      Leaves: they are serrated and mosly oblong, very dark green because I recently gave them some iron. I suppose it could be a match for the photo on HMF.

    • 8 years ago

      Let me take a couple of photos for comparison.


    • 8 years ago

      If it's Baretta St. Bourbon, the leaves should look more or less like this:

    • 8 years ago

      But I was wondering if it could be "Grandmother's Hat", in which case, they would look like this:

    • 8 years ago

      I think you may be correct. The leaves on my plant have the finer serrations as per your Grandmother's Hat. Also the color is right for that one. Wow! Great detective work! I got my "Baretta St. Bourbon" from Rose Petals.

    • 8 years ago

      Everybody makes an occasional mistake. Getting an unexpected "Grandmother's Hat" is not a bad deal. But we'll know for sure after your second flush of bloom.

    • 8 years ago

      Jeri, on second thought, maybe it isn't Grandmother's Hat (not that I'd mind such a mistake). Mine is a cluster bloomer.

    • 8 years ago

      Well, GramHat is a cluster-flowering rose, too.

      But it's been so long since I've had a baby GramHat -- I just don't know.

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