Software
Houzz Logo Print
particentral

First pest issue ?

17 years ago

While I was out of town I had my husband and son plant the last 4 Hybrid Teas that needing planting. We did them in the same type of soil and pots we used with the others and this time, well, we have problems. These roses came from different places and have not been close together on the property once we brought them home and all appeared completlty healthy and growing blooms and new healthy looking leaves and stems until we planted them in their "permanent" pots.

Within a week, the plants look water deprived and new growth appears "funny". Kinda redder than usual and tiny, compact and the leaves are twisting, ONLY on the newly potted roses mind you. The others appear to be healthy and thriving, including my rescuses I thought for sure would die!

I start doing research and in the meantime I check for water and pull out a handful of white grubby looking bugs from the soil. ALL the newly potted plants look the same and have the same bugs! Could that be what is causing the funny growth and wilting leaves?

SO I got some grub killer and treated and within two hours the tops of the soil are crawling with sick little grublike worms...I can only assume that since I didnt find them in any other pots than those just planted that they came in the soil.

Any ideas on what they might be? Naturally I treated all the planters and the yard that they sit in, but if I knew what they were I might be better off. I do want to prune all the funny growth off as well and will do that this evening (its already too hot to be outside). I have checked photos of various viruses and ailments and cant match it up to anything I can find...I hope its just the bugs, cause apparently they are easy to kill. :) But I am open to any other suggestions. I will try to get some photos and post a link to them.

Comments (11)

  • 17 years ago

    Root weevil larvae live in the soil and chew off roots. They can be spread in infested potting soil. Small, white, usually a brown head, and curl into a C shape when disturbed. Can't say as I've seen those reddening and twisting symptoms you describe from root weevils though. Usually just wilting.

    Reddening and twisting make me think weed killer spray drift.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks. I havent had any weed killer myself, but the neighbor did....two or three weeks ago though.....

  • 17 years ago

    Ah, then I think it's safe to guess your roses are suffering from herbicide damage. If it's not that then you're describing symptoms consistent with a virus infection, but it's not unusual for herbicide damage (from drifting spray) to resemble a virus infection, and it would be very, very odd for different roses from different sources to simultaneously express the same virus infection on new growth.

    I think they've been inadvertently hit with herbicide spray drift.

  • 17 years ago

    Um, if your soil is "infested" with "sick little grublike worms" you need to drench the soil with an insecticide that will eliminate them. It is NOT normal for soil to be infested with grubs. I suggest you either call a reputable exterminator/pest control company or drench the infested area with a high-quality pesticide like carbaryl or bendiocarb.

  • 17 years ago

    I already did the soil treatment. That is why they are dying. :) I used a Bayer lawn and soil treatment with Imidacloprid which is pet safe. Same ingredient as in Advantage Flea treatment. Before I did that they were lively, squirmy little things buried in the dirt. NOW they are sick looking little things on TOP of the ground.

  • 17 years ago

    The photo below is from a plant in my garden area, taken this morning. The rose is on the plant immediately next to the other one. They are in the side of the area that faces the neighbor who sprayed the grass killers parking lot.

    {{gwi:316169}}

    THEN here are the grublike things. I am sorry I am not too technical, but I really dont know what they are. I am learning though. I WANT to learn anyway. :)

    {{gwi:316171}}

    And this is the rose bush in that pot with the above grubs. It looked great until this week. It seems to be the newest growth that is drooping.

    {{gwi:316172}}

  • 17 years ago

    I think if it were me, I would take out the four bushes, rinse off the roots, soak them in a bucket, dump the infested bad soil (not on my property), then get new soil and start all over.

  • 17 years ago

    I don't believe the leaves are wilting in the last picture. The bud would be wilting too, but it is standing straight up. That rose looks very healthy. Fresh new leaves sometimes do that. Just give it some water.

  • 17 years ago

    I don't think the insects in the photograph are grubs (ie., immature beetles). I think those are maggots (ie., immature flies). I don't know what they were feeding upon in the pot, but if they are maggots and there's still active decomposition going on in the pot's potting soil it's possible there were involved with that, rather than with your roses.

  • 17 years ago

    Some roses naturally have droopy leaves, even when the leaves are fully hydrated.

  • 17 years ago

    Well, if there is composting going on I didn't do it. I mean, I used bagged soil and my hubby didnt add manure or com post like I aske dhim to. He forgot. I have never seen maggots that large either. These guys are about a 1/2 inch long. Dunno.

    The rose in question that is droopy had the most of those suckers in the soil and even though the rose is completely watered the new growth is doing that. I have three doing that, again out of the four that my hubby potted.
    When I raised Dahlias that was a sign usually of a borer insect, but I have looked and cannot find one. Plus from what I read Roses are less prone to them than Dahlias are. WHICH is why I tend to think its some kind of pest.....but roses are new to me so I could be wrong.

    The funny growth on the others I pruned off and will see what happens when it regrows. I am beginning to lean towards overspray from the neighbors because of more photos I have found.....thanks a bunch guys! Today is my heavy gardening day and all the pots need something, so I will watch and look.

    My hubby says I look too closely and worry too much.....that is in my makeup. I do that with EVERYTHING I do. I want to do everything to the best of my ability and make the roses look as good and healthy as I can make them...that means lots of looking and worrying.