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Wilted E. Millii.

15 years ago

So I get back from winter break about a week ago to find this:

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Now to be perfectly honest, the plant was leaning a bit for awhile. Part of that was getting knocked around a bit while moving it back in September. The soil's pretty loose and it kind of toppled out. Part of it, I assumed, was also related to not having it in a particularly well lit spot, leading to some kind of overly pronounced phototropism.

But it was *not* entirely bent over like it is now.

A few observations. The stems are still pretty firm. I don't see anything that really looks like rot. I don't see any signs of pests either. My immediate assumption was that it had gotten really dessicated and wilted; however giving it water didn't really improve anything. I do not, unfortunately, know how much water I HAD been giving it, although it's quite likely I was underwatering it.

Any ideas?

Comments (12)

  • 15 years ago

    I was going to suggest you bottom water it a time or two & see what it does, but given that style of pot, I don't know how one would accomplish that. Sorry.

  • 15 years ago

    that looks dead to me

  • 15 years ago

    The roots look like it rotted but I still see some green. You could try to root the green stems.

    Take the cuttings from the top portion of the plant, add root tone to the cut ends, and let dry in low light for a couple of days. Next place the cuttings in a 50% mixture of potting mix and sand, and keep damp in a shady spot. In a couple of weeks you will have flowers. Transplant in an area with well-drained soil. If roots stay too wet, they will drop all leaves and die.

  • 15 years ago

    I agree with the lizard doctors diagnosis; the roots are dead. And I think Marquest's suggestion is good except that I would use 75% pumice/scoria instead of sand in the potting mix. Perlite and/or gravel would also work. Sand is good for concrete, not so much for succulents.

    Brad

  • 15 years ago

    Probably going to take cuttings soonish, but just curious, and very roughly speaking of course, how much water would an E. Millii take while being overwintered indoors during the winter months?

  • 15 years ago

    I do not know what others do but my Milli gets watered every week. I killed them when I let a milli dry up like my other succulents.

  • 15 years ago

    I continue watering them a fair amount. I've had a milii variant which blooms from Jan. thru Oct., so as long as it kept blooming I kept watering it well.

    E milii are very deceptive. The best advice I ever got on 'em from was from a veteran plantswoman who said they are very thirsty, so I should water more than one would expect for succulents. Also that they're heavy feeders. Since I'd adapted that to my growing habits, they've done much better.

    West window in NYC, heated apmt on windowsill above radiator, I water them about every 10 days or so, water to overflow, not daintily or in sips. I do try to wait for a sunny morning if possible during winter.

  • 15 years ago

    I started giving it more water. Things seem to have actually improved. It's still pretty bent but not droopy so maybe there's hope for it. We'll see. Might try staking it and see if I can maybe get it to grow more upright. Otherwise I'll just take cutting.

    I was definitely underwatering it, though. For whatever reason, I was under the impression that they needed a dormant period induced by reduced watering. Does this apply to other Madagascan euphorbias, maybe..?

    "I do try to wait for a sunny morning if possible during winter."

    I take the same approach. However, sunny mornings in the winter in Ohio are... very occasional, at best.

  • 15 years ago

    One more thing to consider....

    Sometimes plants will lose roots if they've become too dry.
    Then, when we water again, those dead roots become a source of disease or rot.
    In addition, the reduced root-mass isn't able to utilize the moisture in the soil,
    which means that the moisture sits in the root-zone for much longer.

    Watch the plant very closely.

    Josh

  • 15 years ago

    greenman:

    I've had that happen before with an african violet cluster, actually, and I made a point of starting out giving the E. Millii fairly small amounts of water then acclimating it upwards. Which hopefully worked out okay.

  • 15 years ago

    How long has it been?

    Wasn't this just posted a week ago?

    Josh

  • 15 years ago

    This actually happened more like 3-4 weeks ago, I've just been incredible busy lately and not posting in a timely fashion.