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14 years ago

I fear that my camera is progressively dying (98 percent of the time it won't focus), which is one reason for make sure to take some shots; the other, I'd love to know if there's a name for this miniature Gasteria variegate that I'm going around not knowing. I've seen it frequently on eBay, but no name, and that may be for a reason, I suppose.

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Secondly, these A.s have turned out to be remarkably beautiful. No ID. Assumably a hybrid, and they are pretty fast-growing, and not fussy. Not a tinge of red or pink on the leaves; entirely green Aeoniums. I almost wish I'd picked up the other two the store had that day.

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The weather has cooled, and pouring down rain, but what isn't getting ripped to shreds outside by wind seems happier. But some things are getting out of control and need an adoption program.

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The currently just purple-tinged, fuzzy Semps are my favorite, and they become quite large. Thank God at least a few are going into bloom, which'll clear out a little space for these cramped and neglected. Suppose we need to set up a table and stick some in the ground beneath, hopefully then not to get waterlogged.

Comments (23)

  • 14 years ago

    Hi Teatree,

    Lovely, pretty plants you've got there. While I don't know the name of your Gasteria, I wanted to suggest I don't think that's regarded as a variegate, it just has pattern on the leaves. Don't know what to say or think about the all white pup it's got. I've got Gasterias w/ similar markings which I know aren't regarded as variegates.

    Gorgeous Aeoniums, looks super pristine & perfect, reminds me of pseudotabulaforme, but that usually that looks flatter. Wish I had a name for you.

  • 14 years ago

    The A.s remind me a lot of pseudotabulaforme, too, but I haven't been able to quite determine if the flatness isn't quite up to standard. And pseudotabulaforme is one I find to be such a gorgeous plant. I hope they stay pristine; if they ever come down with scale or something, I'll be pretty ticked.

    And thank you for telling me it's incorrect to call the Gasteria a variegate. I just wasn't aware of the terminology, and I appreciate knowing. And the all-white pup I have been surprised has continued to survive like it has.

  • 14 years ago

    Is my screen color off? That Gasteria pup looks yellow to me. That pup would be considered variegated. Looks like Gasteria pillansii v. ernestii-ruschii to me. Hard to tell the size. How large is the pot?

    I'll have to get back to you on the Aeonium. Too many with similar looks!

  • 14 years ago

    No, it's certainly yellow--I was just going by Karen's wording (I doubt myself that much ;) ). The largest pup is about two and one half inches wide, and the pot is five inches across.

  • 14 years ago

    Colleen,

    Aren't those some pretties indeed! Yes, your yellow pup is variegated, and I wouldn't sever its relationship with Mother until it's larger and (perhaps) develops chlorophyll on its own, if it does at all. I don't know any names, but there are about 1600 to choose from for your Semp. I just got two new ones last week (distinctly distaff - 'Mrs Giuseppe' and 'Wendy') which are already in the ground. Anyway, nice plants, and I too like the flatness of the Aeonium - I never tried growing pseudotab., because, as you may know, I was a repeat loser when growing tab., so why try.

  • 14 years ago

    Oooh, I wasn't clear in that I certainly don't expect any sort of ID for any of the Semps. I'm just overrun with 'em!

    Good thing I'm generally against separating pups from the mother anyway. :) I'd fear I'd lose that pup if divided, too, Jeff.

  • 14 years ago

    i think that your Gasteria is. Gasteria bicolor var. liliputiana

    Here is a link that might be useful: my guess for your gasteria

  • 14 years ago

    Hi RoRo,

    Sorry, your monitor is fine. It's my error, I should have said yellow (like it looks on mine as well), not white.

    I think that maybe be a correct ID & pls. note how it's referred to as a Bicolor, not variegate, don't know why, but that's so.

    Those Aeoniums are almost mouth-watering, if there were a such a plant-lusting equivalent.

  • 14 years ago

    Colleen, as you & Karen both thought, I'm thinking your Aeonium is A. pseudotabuliforme as well.

    Thanks, Karen, about the color. I'm getting older & try not to assume if I can help it! :)

    I have plants I know as Gasteria bicolor v. liliputana that do not look like your plant, Colleen. But I have seen many pix on the web by that name that look just like yours. Since I have not found any particular sites I trust to find info for certain, I cannot say for sure it is that or G. pillansii v. ernestii-ruschii.

    Below are my plants (names on some pix), with thumb in a couple for scale:

    When they were young (Before too much California tan): Click for larger views...

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    In 2 of the pix below (with numbers), 1 & 2 are Gasteria bicolor v. liliputana, IMHO, & #3 is Gasteria pillansii v. ernestii-ruschii (IMHO). Also note, #1 had longer leaves in the beginning. Under stressed conditions, they shorten up. =) Third pic is from this morning.
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    These two this morning:
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    Imagine green tint instead of red...to compare to your plant. LOL

  • 14 years ago

    Lucious plants. That Aeonium looks so perfect!

    Rosemarie, do all Gasterias leaves shorten up when stressed, or just this plant?

    Penny

  • 14 years ago

    Penny, I do not know if ALL leaves shorten under stressed conditions, but I have 3 others that have done the same. One of them is in the middle of this pot, if you look at the first pic taken earlier-compared to the other 2 pix (sort of hard to see in the last).

  • 14 years ago

    Rosemarie;

    are these gasterias so red because of sun exposure or because of age? - or some other reason?

    Thnx. Rina

  • 14 years ago

    Rina,

    A combination of minimal water / little soil / Southern California sun will do that to succulents - it's one of the things I too looked forward to having in my San Diego garden, too - that habitat look.

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  • 14 years ago

    Somi should just water my plants less and they will be beautifuly colored? (Only some of them right? )

  • 14 years ago

    And the sun ... cactusmcharris, what is that fat green plant in the green pot on the table in the background of the pic? Looks very interesting

  • 14 years ago

    Yes, it is as Jeff described...all my plants are on the SOS program (Sink or Swim)...benign neglect! Yes, Zeck, many will turn colors, but not all.

  • 14 years ago

    Ah, Southern Cali sun...will see if any of mine will color red-dish...Like the SOS program, Rosemarie.
    Rina

  • 14 years ago

    What is an sos program and how do i find it?

  • 14 years ago

    Glad you like it, Rina! It works for me!
    Ha ha, Zeck...you implement the SOS program yourself. =)
    First, get a mess o' cart-jumpers. Then set 'em out back somewhere. Every once in a while, give 'em a bit of water (if rain is not likely)..then forget about 'em! If they live...they get to stay...as they have stuck with the program! :D. Well, it would be nice if you check for pests & pick off dead stuff here & there.

  • 14 years ago

    Micro, not sure if you completely got Rosemarie's humor--you stick 'em in the sun and tell 'em to thrive if they know what's best for 'em. To sink/live or swim/end in tears. Something I myself can't bear to do, but then again, I usually don't care for stress colors.

    I've seen pics for both Gasteria that kind of fit the bill, Rosemarie, but more G. pillansii v. ernestii-ruschii that look fitting. So, I'm inclined to agree there. Thank you! And if it's A. pseudotabuliforme in my grasp, I'm one lucky girl.


  • 14 years ago

    Ohh ... -_- ... does anyone know what that green thing is anyway?

  • 14 years ago

    Zeck, looks like a cactus with 2 eyes (has start to split into two), like some Mammillaria are known to do.

  • 14 years ago

    Ohh ok, i have a mammillaria perbella that is doing that but with like 6 eyes :P ... that one just looks cool because the spines look ... softer? At first i thought it was a fat mesemb