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I got a Honeysuckle!

16 years ago

I have admired this plant in so many online garden photos over the years and surprise of surprises I found one at the farm store yesterday! It is Lonicera x heckrotti "Gold Flame". For those unfamiliar this is the one that is hot pink with gold/yellow on the inside when it blooms. Mine is covered in little tiny buds.

Are there any zone 4 gardeners with this one? The tag says it's hardy to z4 or -30F. Online everything I saw says hardy to zone 5. If you have experience with this plant will it survive in my zone?

My plan is to put up some tall fence posts with cross posts along the top and then to grow my tomato vines up cording that will be hanging down from the cross pieces, to keep them off the ground. I thought I could plant this honeysuckle up one of the end posts. Does anyone see any flaws in this plan? TIA!

MeMo

Comments (25)

  • 16 years ago

    Sounds like a plan to me. Those look like the honeysuckle vines I see here, and they seem to be a tough as boots!! MS's site says Z4 - I expect she has minion's to double check the info!!! lol. We need pictures, to watch your progress!

    Nancy.

  • 16 years ago

    I just love Honeysuckle vines. And I happen to have that one also. Honeysuckles are pretty hardy so I don't think you will have any problems in your zone. The flowers are really pretty and hummingbirds love them.

    Only problems on honeysuckles are aphids in the spring and sometimes they get powdery mildrew later in the year. Some types more than others. Mine got it every year until I got smart and hit it with the fungicide whenever I spray my roses. Some neem or even straight dish soap sprayed gets rid of the aphids or you can just dust them with flour.

  • 16 years ago

    That will e gorgeous Memo. I love honeysuckles too. Congratulations!

    kay

  • 16 years ago

    Mine is Lonicera x heckrotti 'Pink Lemonade' (very similar) and I'm listed as z5, but think we should be z4. We typically see -20F to -30F every winter and I've never had any problem with mine (no cold damage, no aphids, no powdery mildew, nothing!).

    I've tried all different ways of growing it (and have 4 clumps in different locations now :) I've found that I can cut mine well back in either fall or spring and have it rebound beautifully for the summer, partially prune it, or just leave it to flower on old wood each year. It's a great plant. Mine seems to prefer to climb something like a wire fence or thicker metal trellis/pole. It doesn't seem to want to grab my wooden picket fence, but it may be because it has to reach too far to get there. It's planted at the inside north corner of the shed and still flowers in all that shade. :)

  • 16 years ago

    I bought honeysuckle goldflame last year at local garden center.
    It didn't do to well, but I was going to return it if it died. Well
    now it's doing great with a lot of flowers getting ready to open.
    I do have one problem with honeysuckle and that's leaf miner.
    So far, they haven't shown up, but probably will later. I would
    add mulch to the honeysuckle in fall just to make sure it
    survives the winter.

  • 16 years ago

    Nancy, thanks for the reminder, I called the Rancher and requested that he get my camera out of my fifth wheel, and bring it to me next time he comes this way. My fifth wheel is parked at his place so without making a 52 mile drive, I'll have to wait a few days. I know I need to take some pictures to document this gardening journey.

    NYRita, I have yet to have any problems with aphids, japaneese beetles or powdery mildew in this part of the state. However just so you know it's not a panacea or anything we do have massive grasshopper invasions when the winter wheat is cut and harvested. Grasshoppers literally defoliate one's plants. We also have cabbage worms and they will eat cabbage in it's entirety, almost overnight, if it's not protected. It's a trade off of one thing or another in all different parts of the world I suppose. But I'll keep my eyes open because I'd never say never when it comes to infestations. It could easily be that I have just never had the right host plant for some of these insects and diseases.

    PartyMusic50, thank you for the much needed information, which gives me encouragement. My area is listed as zone 4 but we see winter temps slightly colder than -30F. If you have similar temps and no die back then it is quite possible that this honeysuckle will survive here. Interestingly I read on a couple of sites that "Gold "Flame", "Pink Lemonade" and two others may actually be the same plant. The hybridizing information on all of them is unknown and they all look very similar and have similar zone limitations. Have you ever run across info to that effect? I appreciate knowing that yours will not climb your wooden fence since I am planning to grow mine up a wooden fence post. I guess tying will be necessary. I also had read that they can be grown as a shrub and be trimmed at whatever height is desired. A six foot shrub beside the post would also look nice unless it would get very wide.

    Thanks,
    MeMo

  • 16 years ago

    Memo - you can always whack it back to suit your space!!! lol. I love gardening! You can't do that to people~~~they have laws!!!!

    Nancy.

  • 16 years ago

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  • 16 years ago

    What a gorgeous picture!

    I will take powerdy mildew to a plague of grasshoppers any day.

  • 16 years ago

    When we first put in our garden room, I planted 2 John Clayton honeysuckle. This is a yellow honeysuckle. Sure wish I had known more then, as I really don't have any other yellow in my garden. The one you have would look so much better. They are easy to grow. The only thing I have found is the base will tend to get "leggy" with more growth and flowering on the top if you don't prune it back some.

    Yellow honeysuckle to the left of the screen door.
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  • 16 years ago

    Oh, GGG, you've made my heart go pitter-pat! I don't think I've ever seen a similar honeysuckle with a white rose. What a beautiful combination! Thank you for the picture!

    MaryLu, I think your golden honeysuckle looks very nice with your roses. Perhaps you could add a preferred pink and yellow to your yellow for a mix of colors? Shall I start a piece for you? I've read they are easy to start!

    Both of those are climbing wood structures aren't they? Do you tie them or do they climb?

    MeMo

  • 16 years ago

    Mmmmmm, I thought I'd posted here, must have forgot to hit the submit button.
    I love honeysuckles and the fragrance from 'Serotina' in the evening wafting through our living room when the door or windows are open, tis wonderful.
    I have several varieties scattered throughout the gar*den but the one with the strongest and nicest fragrance IMO is the late dutch, Lonicera periclymenum 'Serotina'. The only problem I have with honeysuckles are spittlebugs which are easily knocked off with a blast from the hose.

    Annette

  • 16 years ago

    I bought one just for the hummingbirds. It is heckrotti Dropmore Scarlet. It is beautiful but has no fragrance! Like Mary Lu, I wish I had done more research.

    I want fragrance....another thing is it is too close to the steps and I have to keep it cut back. Don't worry about tying them up they will vine around anything available including lawn chairs. {{gwi:655276}}From Gardening 2010
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    I wonder about just digging it out and moving it?

  • 16 years ago

    I love it gldno1!
    I have several types of hecktorii that range from orange to red, to red exterior orange interior..and John Clayton too. Clayton is in a bucket right now. I had to remove the broken down arbor it was on. And now I'm slow at getting another place for it. It's a gorgeous vine Marylou and I agree, add more yellow to the garden and help it blend! I love it in your photo!! None of my honeysuckles have a scent. I'm not sure if I can grow scented honeysuckle cultivars here and have them not be weedy?

  • 16 years ago

    None of the Trumpet honeysuckles have any scent.

  • 16 years ago

    GGG, both my Lonicera periclymenums are very well behaved, I have both the early Belgica and the later Serotina. I'd give one a try, I think Serotina might have a little stronger scent tho.

    Annette

  • 16 years ago

    I have had Serotina for years. It's a very well behaved honeysuckle. Beautiful flowers. Plus its late blooming which is really nice as it blooms when the others aren't blooming.

  • 16 years ago

    I have several honeysuckles (nowhere near as nice as pictures I remember Annette posting...) There seem to be two kinds in general - ones that will twine around anything they can reach and ones that have to be tied up. I think my favorite is 'Harlequin' which is nicely variegated and nicely scented. It's one that needs to be tied up. It's listed as hardy to zone 4.
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  • 16 years ago

    Woody, that is soooo pretty, even it wasn't flowering. Mmmmmm, I think I have to look for that one, I have just the spot for it :).

    Annette

  • 16 years ago

    Glenda, Your's looks like it would be a really nice color! I'm pretty sure you can cut them back and then transplant them. The info on mine said I can prune lightly to keep it in shape or I can cut it back to the ground and let it start over when needed. Why don't you cut some upper new growth starts, dip in rooting hormone and then plant in your favorite starting mix or potting soil. It should only take about two weeks to root. Then you'll have extra starts if you need them after you move your big plant. I read that you should leave 1-2 leaf sets on the piece and then remove the lower two leaf sets, potting it so the striped areas of the stem are below the dirt.

    Woodyoak, Would you be interested in swapping a couple pieces of your variegated for a couple pieces of mine? I would love to have some of yours on the front corner of my home!! It's really lovely.

    I didn't know there were unscented honeysuckles. Thanks for sharing that information with us, NYRita!

    MeMo

  • 16 years ago

    I love that Harlequin - that is drop-dead gorgeous!! Z4, eh?

    Nancy.

  • 16 years ago

    I have afew trumpet honeysuckles. You give up scent to get those trumpet shaped flowers. Doesn't make any differece to the hummingbirds they love them all.

    My favorite Trumpet Honeysuckle is Major Wheeler as it just blooms from spring until fall. I used to have another really nice one, Blanche Sandman but that one died two years ago after being here at least 7 years. Then I have the yellow one, John Clayton.

    I will have to try cuttings as I never have tried them. I know the honeysuckles are really easy to tip root but one doesn't always have a long enough run to reach the ground.

  • 16 years ago

    I didn't know there was a varigated honeysuckle. Have to see if I
    can get it. I doubt the local nurseries have it. Beautiful. Gonna
    check out Major Wheeler also..

  • 16 years ago

    Rita, you could also try air layering, just scrape the stem a bit, pack a little damp potting medium or peat moss around the stem, wrap plastic wrap around it and secure with twist ties. Check to see it doesn't dry out and when the roots appear cut and pot up.

    Annette

  • 16 years ago

    MeMo - check your e-mail...

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