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Will someone talk with me about bulbs?

19 years ago

Hello all,

I've got dual issues going on. First of all, I'm new to the Pacific Northwest. Secondly, I'm new to having outdoor plants (my first balcony). I apologize in advance for the long post, but there's a lot I don't know!

I have four flower boxes that are each 24 inches long, about 6 inches wide, and about 8 inches deep. They're hangin on the lip of the railings on my southeast-facing balcony. All of them have good drainage holes in the bottom.

I planted a layer of tulip bulbs at the bottom of the boxes with about an inch of dirt underneath them, then a layer of crocus bulbs a couple inches above them.

I should mention that I have small boxwood bushes in the center of each box.

Also, I accidentally planted mostly fall crocuses, with only a couple spring crocuses mixed in there. (I'm pretty mad at myself for that.)

What are the odds that I'm actually going to get some tulips in the spring? And how likely is it that the crocus bulbs will give me blooms each fall if I leave them in place? And am I right in thinking that the chance of getting repeat blooms from the tulips are slim to none?

If there is any chance of success with these, can I plant some kind of ground cover in the boxes that will be pretty but won't interfere with the bulb growth each year?

If there isn't much chance of success, is it too late to dig up the bulbs and put them in different, possibly deeper containers? They've been in the ground for less than a week.

Any other tips on planting bulbs in containers that anyone would like to offer?

Thank you. :0)

Comments (16)

  • 19 years ago

    I've grown bulbs for many years, and yes, you should have great tulips. However, if they are not of a Darwin strain, chances are you will only have one season of bloom. (Darwins will usually return for many years.) You could also plant, a little above the tulips, other bulbs that don't need so much depth.... snowdrops, regular crocuses etc. and it is not too late to scrape out the soil and do that. Put a good bit of bone meal in with each bulb. Almost any shallow rooting ground cover would do well on the surface and should not hinder the bulbs. Of course, I am only speaking from my experience.... I am sure there are many other opinions. I am sure you will enjoy your spring garden!

  • 18 years ago

    In containers I would plan on digging up the bulbs as they finish in the spring and starting over the next fall, with fresh potting soil. Just not enough root space in these little boxes, and you don't want all that dying foliage to look at as they ripen after blooming. They're not that expensive.

    If you replant every fall, you should get flowers every spring. To keep tulips as a perennial requires letting the plant stand and wither on its own time after the flowers are done, and that can take a couple of months. Not very attractive when all you have is a couple of boxes on a balcony.

    Crocuses do well planted over tulips. So would pansies and violas, and alyssum.

  • 18 years ago

    I do have tulips repeat here in the garden with no effort. I have no idea if they are Darwin's or not. I bought them because of the colors. It is possible that they are. Some are close to ten years old.

    Crocus are excellent repeat bloomers and they multiply easily too. Ditto Daffodils.

    I have pots with tulips, daffs, crocus and mini iris layered in them and I plant annuals on top. Some are several years old.

    The dying bulb foliage is distracting. I believe that I will plant them all in the ground next spring as it is much easier to hide the dying foliage among perennials and grasses than in a pot.

    Here is a link that might be useful: My Narcissus Collection

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks all!

    Buyorsell, as usual, your photos inspire me. :0)

    Here's my plan - I'll give it a shot and see what happens. If they don't rebloom then they don't rebloom. So be it, right?

  • 18 years ago

    Right!

  • 18 years ago

    Maintaining soil fertility seems to be important for keeping them going. I was having problems with daffodils being rapidly diminished by narcissus bulb fly until I fertilized, then instead the clump quickly bulked up (more bulbs and flowers, with taller stems) and was great. Speaking of pests, gray squirrels dig and eat crocuses here. To keep crocuses going you must have an area where gray squirrels do not go/do not bother them or screen them out with wire.

    C. tomasinianus is so prolific that it is often able to keep ahead of rodents, I planted that one here to get around the squirrel problem. Once they started going for the other kinds (C. sieberi etc.) keeping those in any quantity became doubtful.

  • 18 years ago

    My yard is full of Eastern fox squirrels and I've had no problems with crocus being dug up. I have tons of crocus.

    Do you have the native Western grays? or the introduced Eastern ones? I have neither here.

  • 18 years ago

    Fortunately I haven't had any problems with squirrels digging around in my flower boxes on my balcony!

  • 18 years ago

    We have a problem with Steller"s Jay going after newly planted crocus. They don't seem to bother the ones that have become established, so now I cover newly planted crocus with anything handy until January.

    A......

  • 18 years ago

    Others have had squirrels causing problems on their balconies, and complained of it on the internet. Eastern gray squirrel is the common one in developed areas here. Native Douglas squirrels become scarce when dense coniferous forests are opened up, western gray squirrels have also not prospered in modern times. I did once see them much in evidence on an Oregon college campus.

  • 18 years ago

    Oh? Thanks bboy, I'll be on the lookout.

  • 18 years ago

    Thank you everyone for your help. I definitely am calling year #1 a success...

    My plan is to set the boxes aside in a sunny yet out-of-the-way spot after the flowers fade, and to buy new boxes for my annuals. After the foliage dies out I'll dig up the bulbs and use them again in the fall. I'll probably have more questions then, but for now, I just wanted to say thank you and to show off my beautiful balcony. :0)

    Here's a couple more pics, just for fun:














  • 18 years ago

    Bravo!

    Well done.

    Thanks for sharing.

  • 18 years ago

    You don't have to lift them if you don't want to. I leave mine in similar pots and they seem to be doing fine. I have some on third year, some on second. DH mentioned a couple years ago that he really liked tulips. they aren't my fave because their leaves are more difficult to ignore when they are dying but I went ahead and planted a bunch for him.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks! I suppose I can just move the boxes if the leaves start annoying me. It's nice that the boxes aren't attached to anything, so they'll be easy to swap out with empty ones. I'll see what I feel like in the fall as far as lifting the bulbs goes!

  • 18 years ago

    See this thread:

    Here is a link that might be useful: bulbs in containers

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