Your rose looks more like my Yolande d' Aragon (Perpetual Damask, Portland) including buds, stems and foliage, than either version of what is commonly called Seven Sisters, but I could be wrong.

Yolande d' Aragon blooms mostly in spring, though it may have a few blooms in fall, and it is highly fragrant.

I'll put a link to the HelpMeFind photos:

Here is a link that might be useful: Yolande d' Aragon

Thanks Petaloid.
Do the old blooms of Yolande d' Aragon get a bluish-gray overtone?

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How large are the flowers? Since your friend thought Seven Sisters-which it is definitly not, are the flowers relatively small?

patricia

Sorry Patricia,
The size of a bloom never translates in a photo without something to put it in scale. The blooms are about 2-2.5 inches.There are so many roses that get incorrectly labeled Seven sisters, that I am always skeptical.

Thanks

Colin,

Use the link below to go to the Antiques Forum and check out the photos I have in a thread there about my own found rose. See if they match what you have.

Connie

Here is a link that might be useful: Found Rose Discussion

Thanks Connie,
They are similar in some ways:

matte green leaves
fancy sepals
tends to bloom in groups of 3 or 5 blooms
Almost all the leaves have 5 leaflets, but some have 7.

But dissimilar in some ways:

fuller bloom with a green button eye
has thorns but is not overly thorny
color of the blooms is a deeper pink that fades to a grayish pink.

This rose also has little resinous hairs that are slightly sticky and have that moss rose smell. It is not heavy enough to be a moss rose, but it maybe related.

I would guess that our 'foundlings' are close in ancestry but not identical. Thanks,
Collin

Seven Sisters??

Seven Sisters? fancy sepals

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Seven Sisters leaf

It is almost always easier to say what something is not than what it is. SS has fluffy almost carnation like flowers and no green eye. Your rose is much too double plus SS is really a huge shrub and I cant imagine being able to grow it in a pot. Go to HMF roses and look at the pics there. I have SS from Pickering. If you planted your rose in the ground it could surprise you with bigger flowers. It looks like a really nice rose. I have alot of 'founds' myself and never get tired of trying for an ID.

patricia

Patricia,
Thanks for the info. Yes, I have a lot of found roses, but I am always on the hunt for a name. Does Seven Sisters have a tendency to be a little mossy?

Possibly 'De La Grifferaie'?

De La Grifferaie...hmmmm, interesting. After looking at the photos at HMF they seem similar. Trospero, do you know if De La Grifferaie is a bit 'mossy'? This rose is a little 'mossy', which I thought may be a characteristic that would help identify it.

Thanks for your help, Collin.

Yes, it has foliacious sepals, as in your photos. Strictly speaking, its not "mossing" but simply exaggerated sepal growth, often seen in OGR type roses. 'Chapeau de Napoleon' would be an example of extreme sepal growth of this type. The sepals on many OGR types are also very glandular and frequently scented of Balsam or, occasionally, Lemon.

Regards,
Paul

'Foliacious sepals', I like that. I guess what I was referring to as 'mossy', (for lack of a better word)is the tendency of this rose to be' glandular'. Thanks for a better word!

I was hoping that the tendency for it to be glandular would help to narrow my focus. They are scented Lemon to my nose.

Thanks,
Collin

A rather robust old garden rose is De la Grifferaie. The immense cat claw thorns will grab you as you walk by. Foliose sepals protect the fat buds of Bullata. Crinkled, lettuce leaf-type foliage has made this rose renowned. Each leaf is large, dark and sometimes has a hint of red along the ripples.
The unique moss roses are the only class of old garden roses not named on the basis of parentage. These are mostly sports of the centifolias and damasks, and they are noted for their peculiarity of moss-like growth on the stem of the flower, on the calyx, on the sepals and sometimes

Hi Collin,
Your found rose looks a lot like a rose I have called Russelliana. I've been trying to load some pictures, but dial up is painfully slow this morning, will try again later.
Is your rose scented? My Russelliana has a strong (what I believe to be) damask scent.
Donna