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Thanks again!

Here is a link that might be useful: Mystery Roses

Your pale pink climber is either Dr. W. Van Fleet or New Dawn. The only difference between the two is that New Dawn reblooms and the Dr. only blooms in the spring. Nice roses.

Connie

Hmmm, actually the pale pink is the only one that is NOT a climber if the base of the plant is any judge. It is a really stout and sturdy rose "bush," and has sent arms up and over an old rickety arbor and re-rerooted itself on the other side. Some of the stems on that one are as big around as my pinkie finger. But I will look up the two names you gave me and see what I can see. Thank you!!

I looked up this rose on another site, and even a comment I saw about the color of the blooms being a bit different in sun and shade (shade being paler) seems to fit, since a bit of this is in the sun, but most is in the shade and the shade blooms are paler pink. Yay!!! One down, three to go, lol.

Thanks, Connie!!!

If the foilage of the white one is as small (compared to the rose size) as it looks in the picture, try looking up Spinosissimas (Scotch Briars).