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15 years ago
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Wood Wall Paneling Dilemma: My (soon-to-be) wood panelled walls in den (don't worry-none of furniture,cabinet fronts or window treatments will stay) Should I paint, stain or leave natural- I do want to paint the trim white.

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  • PRO
    15 years ago
    I would paint. And keep the wood cabinets., they would look divine, if you trimmed them out in complimentary colors - it would add great texture, depth and architectural element to the blah paneling. Frost the fireplace too. Your window panes are beautiful. Great light in that room. Paint will turn this room into a knock out. Find the right shades of off white, cream and beige (different then the picture of the room you are sitting in). A big green plant, sculpture next to the fire place. A large framed mirror or piece framed art over the fireplace - larger then what is there now.
  • 15 years ago
    Paint light and think limestone fireplace floor to ceiling - and wall to wall budget permitting. Strip the floors and bleach them, then stain perhaps a shade or two lighter than the limestone but leaning to grey sand tones. Or replace with wide plank hard wood in same light tone. If you have the budget think bold new windows for drama.
  • 15 years ago
    I certainly didn't mean for that other picture to be there and don't know how to remove it- it was supposed to be another angle to that room.
  • 15 years ago
    By the looks of the amount of fabric for the drapes, you have some big windows. Lucky you- but $$$ to replace. I would paint the paneling and either reface the fireplace, or find someone who specializes and fireplace painting. I like the idea of the creams/beiges. Any thought of refacing the cabinets or having someone to redo the mantel? That really modernizes things.
  • 15 years ago
    Those are great cabinets, which will stand out against painted paneling. Paint the fireplace brick; it's not difficult - just tedious and a lot of work. Perhaps even get rid of the mantel altogether. The hearth could be extended on either side across the entire end of the room if the cabinet doors allow. If the middle row of cabinet doors open onto nice shelves, removing those doors and painting the inside of a contrasting color/tone.
  • 15 years ago
    You could reface the fireplace, and paint the lower cabinets to match your trim color. Then remove the upper cabinet doors and have open shelving for display items. You can also wallpaper over the other walls with "Walldoctor" paintable by Graham and Brown: http://www.grahambrown.ca/us/shop-wallpaper/wall-doctor
  • 15 years ago
    Paint the paneling and the brick fireplace!
  • 15 years ago
    I would paint everything, walls, trim, cabinets and brick. That room will drop 20 years in a couple of days.
  • 15 years ago
    Hi - I love wood, therefore would be reluctant to paint - I love the natural warmth wood provides. I would like to suggest rendering - ie resurfacing, the brick fireplace to a smooth finish, and paint in a complimentary colour to the wood. If the TV is staying in the room, place it above the fire place on the mantle. New window treatments, etc. The room will look fabulous. Best wishes :)
  • 15 years ago
    Personally, I would paint the fireplace first. I think that would make a huge difference in the room, and give you an idea where you might want to go next. I did that in an old house I had, and it made all the difference. Then I would move the TV and get a new light fixture for the ceiling (not a ceiling fan, btw!). Sometimes little changes (with little $$ invested) can make you feel much better about a room.
  • PRO
    15 years ago
    Paint all the paneling and the cabinets. Here is a room I am currently working on. A photo of the paneling before paint and one after. The only other changes are the tile was removed and the original Spanish tile floors were restored and the ceiling tiles were removed and replaced with drywall. This is going to be the formal dining room with a new chandelier and creme silk taffeta curtains softening all the windows.
  • 15 years ago
    PAINT EVERYTHING NOW.
  • 15 years ago
    in looking briefly at some of the photos in your Ideabook, I can tell you are drawn to clean, streamlined, contemporary looks, therefore, I HIGHLY reccomend you just go for it and paint everything WHITE including the fireplace, and remove the doors from cabinets. I once had a dark cavernous large family room like this and although it was a TON of work & I met with objection from my outdoorsy husband--we all LOVED it after it was done--it was so bright & cheerful & I was still able to have husbands"NORTHWOODS" decor--it was best decorating decision I have made
  • 15 years ago
    Yes, paint--the walls, ceiling, paneling, and fireplace! I think it would be beautiful in white, dove gray, and light blue, but it all depends on your decor. Once you have your favorite pieces picked out for the room, just choose some neutral tones from those items and go for it. Good luck!
  • 15 years ago
    WHITE!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!
  • 15 years ago
    Remove the upper doors of cabinets. Remove, replace and lower the mantel. Use wallboard and cover the upper brick on the fireplace, add some trim and then paint everything white or whatever light color scheme you like. I'd skip curtains and add non-louvered shutters. The TV definitely needs to go somewhere else altogether.
  • PRO
    15 years ago
    I would paint the paneling and the fireplace - it will brighten the room and give it a whole new look. However, what bothers me more than the wood are the cabinet doors - they look more dated than anything else. They make the room look very heavy at that end, too. If you need closed storage, how about adding glass upper doors (you could add fabric panels behind)?Otherwise, I would just remove the upper doors altogether and replace the bottom doors with a simpler flat panel design. Also, I would have a mantle and surround built - the existing is just too small and skimpy. You could then paint the brick, or cover it in wood from the mantle up and add a nice tile around the fire box.
  • PRO
    15 years ago
    paint the entire FP wall and build a wood surround over the existing FP. It will visually make the room wider. Add details: replace the dated doors and take the top doors off to make exposed shelves. Paint the inside of the shelves as well as the shelves themselves a rich color, leaving only the outside of the shelves/cabinet doors and FP the trim color.
  • 15 years ago
    I think, after everything is removed, I'd see how the wood looks with a new fireplace facade. That would be the most dramatic update. If the wood is just veneer (as someone went on and on about earlier), paint would probably be the best option. I would install wider crown molding, or paint it white or off white and maybe the baseboards if they are in good conditon. Without knowing what kind of wood paneling it is, it is hard to say. I have seen some paint overs that have turned out less than stellar and make it look worse than before. It does depend on the size of your room, and the light exposure you get. Find a room look you love in a magazine or online, and then have a professional come in to give you their opinion and go from there. Good luck and please show us what you end of doing!
  • 15 years ago
    i would def. paint all the walls/paneling etc. then maybe have fireplace redone in some kind of glass tile? I really like your rug. We recently painted our wood cabinets white in the kitchen and it made all the difference! Please post some pics when your finished!
  • 15 years ago
    Paint the paneling. Our living room was paneled and looked like a dark cave. Best thing we ever did. No regrets except sorry we didn't do it earlier. I like your cabinets. Try keeping those natural until the end. You can always paint them later if you don't like their look with the painted paneling.
  • 15 years ago
    I had this same problem a few years back. I even had a bar with a tiki style roof in the den! Painting really opened up the space. I took the top cabinet covers off and left shelving open. Adding can or recessed lighting helped. Painted the fireplace a dark green.

    I also added French doors but you could get the look by changing the windows or painting the lights of the windows.
  • 15 years ago
    Kate- I think your room has great potential. It is hard to see in this photo, but it looks like the face of the upper cabinets are flush with the paneled bulkhead, essentially. I would remove the dated, routed, 70's doors from the built-ins & replace the bottom 6 doors with new wood or MDF doors in a simple flat panel Shaker style door. If the shelves behind the upper doors are wimpy, thin shelves, I would add 1-3/4" stock to the face to make them look like thicker, beafy shelves. I would paint behind the upper shelves a light grey-blue or light grey-green. I would paint all of the trim and paneling white. If it is real wood you'll need to paint first with kilz white pigmented shellac - then top coat with good quality latex acrylic or alkyd oil paint. Pratt & Lambert makes a wonderful acrylic that is self leveling & has that rich appearance of oil paint when dry - so a great look for all of your trim. You don't want too much shine on the paneling since it will highlight any and all flaws- maybe just a satin finish?
    It looks like an 8' ceiling, so I would remove the crown at the brick (save to reinstall) then install sheetrock on the top 4' (after removing crown) use Liquid nails or PL4000 directly overtop of the upper brick. If you have any architectural salvage yards nearby, try to find a black slate surround and a whole simple mantle. If none available, buy 3 pieces of black granite and install around the firebox and then build and install a mantle (paint same as trim color). I wouldn't look for one quite as tall at the wood shelf mantlepiece you have now- that wood beam (mantlepiece) looks too high to me.
    I would definitely paint all of the paneling white- (if you aren't considering removing it)
    It looks like you have wood floors? - If budget permits, have them sanded, stained dark & then 3 or 4 top coats of polyurethane.
    When you do decide on window treatments, I think black, bronze or any dark chunky metal rods, hung as close to the ceiling as you can
  • 15 years ago
    oops, it cut off the rest of my post.
    Having that foot or so above your existing curtain rods make the ceiling feel shorter.

    I would also add recessed lighting - maybe one can, centered on each bookcase and a third one centered on the fireplace (eyeball type if you are using artwork above the mantle - no light at all if you are hanging a flatscreen tv.
    I would also look for a much larger ceiling fixture - I would think 24"-30" diameter - and probably not a flush ceiling mount.

    I think your tv on the stand takes up too much space in your room. I would put it in the bookcase to the left of the fireplace or use a flat screen above the mantle (If so - you'll need to frame or furr out the brick to be able to run your cable and electrical wires and receptacle box and to have adequate support to hang the tv - before you install sheetrock)
  • 15 years ago
    Paint it white! It will be beautiful without totally overwhelming the room. I am sorry to say that I really don't like how it looks now. Sorry!
  • 15 years ago
    The main surfaces---floors and walls---are exactly the same color right now. I suggest you add some much-needed contrast by painting either the walls OR the floor. Painting the wood paneling is probably the best solution as they won't wear as easily as the floor. A lighter color on the walls will also open the space.
  • 15 years ago
    P.S.
    If you decide to paint the ceiling, you could try a warm white in a satin finish. We've used this in our current and previous home, and, in spite of conventional wisdom to go "flat" on ceilings, we simply love the subtle glow the satin finish gives to our living areas.

    New ceiling fixture is a must, but surely you already knew that! Enjoy your new space.
  • 15 years ago
    You were drawn to this traditional, warm room for a reason and don't indicate goals. . .i.e., selling or staying long term.
    The paneling will likely be damaged from cabinet removal and you will have to drywall the entire space. . . endless possibilities in that event.
    To stage or postpone renovations. . . . focus on furnishings.
    Paint the ceiling a pale, pale soft gold in satin finish. .remove mantel. . . .cover fireplace in drywall and paint. . replace surround. . . add a vertical or square painting. . . . raise curtain rods to the ceiling (2 inch diameter natural bamboo with bamboo rings). . . pale gold linen draperies . . .pale gold woven shades if there are privacy or light issues. . . . red persian or soumak rug on the floor. . . .chamois color leather furniture. . . . throws that pick up colors in the rug. . . bronze and glass cocktail table to keep interior space open. . .big book. . .glass accents. . .one distinctive pottery lamp with silk or linen shade. . .provide continuity by adding small persian rugs to hallways and kitchen spaces.
  • 15 years ago
    We had a dated panelled family room too. Painted the walls /panelling cranberry red, white built ins and did the fireplac a white wash (no-brainer but time consuming) got a new mantle made and voila-updated. With the addition of new handle for those cabinets....what about rod iron w/ similar accents?? the room would feel new?! I love personality in a room and those cabinets have it so whay destroy it?? just give it a new vibe...:-)
  • 15 years ago
    I have that 70's panelling through my entire house and my cabinets in your kitchen are the exact same style as yours. I painted mine and it made tons of difference. I would recommend that you wait to paint the fireplace till last, as you may like the brick in your final look and can always paint it later, but it is tough to undo. You may opt to beef up your mantle or just dress the lower half all together. Please do paint the walls and trim. I would also remove a few of the cabinet doors on the top two cabinets and use them for open bookshelf display. Paint them the same color as the trim, and replace the knobs on the lower cabinets that you keep. You can also paint the back wall of your open shelves to match your walls or use a fun wallpaper to add some punch. Remember to first clean the walls well, I used a bunch of magic erasers, and you may need to lightly sand them if they have a gloss sheen and wipe down again, then prime them till the brown in the cracks no longer bleed through(probably twice) or it will show on your final coat. Also, that smoke stain on the front of the fireplace needs to go paint or not and will normally come off with some of that foamy bathroom cleaner and a scrub brush. Good Luck! Please post some follow up pics so we can see how it turns out.