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How much granite overhang without support is OK?

18 years ago

I'm going to have a an island which will be 30X42 inches. I would like to leave about 1/4 of the area without cabinets underneath so as to have room for a stool.

So there will be be a 15 X 27 inch space there - 15 inches on the 30 inch side, and 27 inches on the 42 inch length will be open. I would like to leave it completely open, but my KD says that I should get a full 30 inch panel (on the shorter side) to support the granite - that it's too large an area to be unsupported.

I see lots of overhangs that seem to run all the way along the length of an island that are open on either end.

Any opinions?

Comments (13)

  • 18 years ago

    I have a 12" 'bar' on my peninsula and the granite people said it would need some kind of support, like brackets. Anything beyond 10" they said. So I'd assume that your 15" could be supported by something, but 27" seems extreme. Maybe it could be done with rodding? Not sure. Don't rely on the KD, talk to a granite place.

    - D

  • 18 years ago

    Actually, you're confirming what my KD said, that's it's too much to overhang without support. She did say we could do brackets, but she thinks the panel would look better.

    Thanks.

  • 18 years ago

    27" overhang? Is that even going to look good? That seems extreme--you're going to have nearly as much overhang as cabinet from that direction (the end). You don't need that much for a stool--15" should be enough.

  • 18 years ago

    Sorry, I wasn't clear - I should sketch it out and insert the diagram, but I don't know how. It's going to be 27 inches along the length, and 15 inches deep for legroom.

  • 18 years ago

    My soapstone overhang at the end of the island is 12" with no support. It's fine; my fabricator said it absolutely did not need support. Why don't you ask your granite fabricator?

  • 18 years ago

    I will, of course, ask the granite fabricator. I'm just looking to guys for ammunition in case I don't like what I hear ;-)

  • 18 years ago

    I am getting templated tomorrow, my fabricator also said no more than 10" without support every 4 feet or so" (he was less precise about how many feet in between supports). He said you might be able to get away with more overhang, but if someone sits, stands on or otherwise abuses it, you could be in trouble. He did also say that even with 10" or under you don't want anyone sitting or standing on it. HTH

  • 18 years ago

    One place (called Floor Decor) told me that I didn't need support under a 10" overhang - on a long peninsula. Home Depot (who I got the granite through), said that they would NOT do it without some support. They were here at the house, and *really* felt strongly about it. And no, I didn't get the feeling that their opinion was based on them getting a few extra bucks. I decided to go with them, and the steel supports for peace of mind if nothing else. You can also use corbels, but I opted not to use them because although I think that they look great - I've bumped my knees a time or 3 on them. Hope that helps. We get templated tomorrow - whoo hoo!
    ---Boxie

  • 18 years ago

    We have a 60" long x 18" wide overhang with our island. Our granite guy said we didn't need to support it, but I beg to differ and supported it just in case. We drilled a 3/4" plywood sheet (just smaller than the entire island)into the top of the cabinets and then routed in 1/2" steel bars (these were also just smaller than the island) and drilled these into the plywood. The granite was laid on top (and glued/epoxied). Although you can't see the plywood unlesss you bend over or are sitting under the overhang, we chose to cover the edges of the plywood with thin strips of wood that matches our cabinets, so it looks like the support extends as part of the cabinets. We did all this because we wanted a clean look with no corbels, etc. It is great (I had to stand on the island to change a light bulb) and I am very happy that I chose to support it...now I don't have to worry!

  • 18 years ago

    Microbugs,

    That's a great idea - I'm going to suggest it to the KD. I'm planning on a very contemporary kitchen, and I want clean lines.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks for those pictures cloud_swift! Just what I want done to our overhang. No knee-bumping corbels for me.

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    10 years ago

    You can go with a normal Granite up to 7", if you have like Ceaserstone ore Silestone you can go with one inch more but in your 25" overhang you need at least 20" Brackets and your Overhang will not be fully used because more than 15" is useless.