I've seen both installed in a local kitchen store and prefer the Le Mans -- seems to work more smoothly. However, the magic corner worked pretty well and is, I believe, less costly?

Lemans if you want to be modern, MC if you want to be traditional.

Thank you all for your input. Apparently Hafele has opened a "functional showroom" in Boston so I am going to check it out and make a final decision asap.

Farmgirlinky - I have gone back to look at pictures of your kitchen countless times. I find it so inspiring - one of my absolute favorites.

Linking the cut sheet on the new LeMans II in case it helps anyone.

Says that it has 20% more storage capacity than the original Le Mans

Here is a link that might be useful: LeMans II

I have the middle sized LeMansII and I picked that over the magic corner. True, you cannot stuff as much in the blind corner, yes there is some wasted space. But, I just liked it better. Good that you can go see it and then judge for yourself what will work for you. I still have empty drawers and shelves, so space was not a big issue for me.

This is an older post but I am responding because I was looking for some solid data on square footage and value for the money.

Actually some fallacies here that need correcting: math speaks the best rather than opinion. Anything you put in a corner will have lost space for mechanisms or round peg in a square hole phenomena.

The magic corner is as space effective as the Lehman's corner. A half susan is a simpler alternative, but again a little less efficient for space but better on mechanics and ease of use. At this point its about preference for the user.

But now door width and clearances come into play. A magic corner will not open around a standard range because of the clearances required.

You can use either system in a blind corner with a drawer above. Yes blind corner cabinets do come with a drawer with many manufacturers.

Another alternative is to put your money into drawers on both sides. the effectively can triple or quadruple your space for the shallower items. You cannot put a post form laminate countertop onto an empty corner though. And be prepared your installer just might use some choice words. (but s/he's only there for a few days and you get to live in your kitchen.

Hope this helps someone out in the future. Sometimes your K&B designer cannot give you everything because of corner constraints.

Would like to add to Laurie Brasnett's observations some specs regarding both units. The largest LeMans II which is the model "60" requires a 22 1/4" minimum cabinet opening for frameless cabinets while the Magic Corner requires only 20 1/2" which could make a difference for some users designing the space. The shelf capacity is what may be the deciding factor for me. Each shelf of the LeMans II in the version "60" has a 55-pound capacity. This is much lower than you would see with drawers utilizing hardware slides rated for 75 or 100 pounds, but it is still better than the Magic Corner that has a rating of 22 pounds for each of the front shelves and 17 pounds for each of the back shelves. All total, the LeMans holds more.

Many of the advertising photos show heavy items on these blind corner units, but it would be wise for the user to rather place bulky but lightweight items to utilize the space yet not overextend the weight capacity. For instance, think large plastic storage containers or aluminum baking pans. Small items don't do well with these units as they tend to fall off. Save your heavy appliances for a sturdier storage area.

For anyone leaning toward the LeMans, I would highly recommend going with the larger model "60" unit. It is shaped better for greater capacity than any of the smaller ones, yet the additional cabinet door opening required compared to the smaller models is minimal.

If you are specifying one of these units for a new cabinet order, be sure the cabinet maker quotes the price of the unit to you in line item format, as you may find it several hundred dollars less expensive to purchase online and install the unit yourself.

It is my observation that anyone who has both sides of a blind corner cabinet run available would do better with a Lazy Susan or multi-tiered Super Susan design. These other blind corner units simply don't hold as much weight, but they are a reasonable solution for someone who has only one side of a blind corner accessible.

I put the LeMans into an IKEA cabinet as part of the upgrade with custom doors. The magic corner is double the price.

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Can anyone with a LeMans unit tell me how much space there is between the bottom shelf and the top one? I'm wondering I I could put an Instant Pot on the bottom shelf or if it will be too tall. Thanks!

The LeMans shelves are adjustable so that you can place the shelving as desired, but I would caution against thinking you could successfully store something heavy and bulky on it long term. This solution is best saved for your lightest weight items like empty storage containers or mixing bowls.