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Round Box Square Backplate??

18 years ago

I only occasionally post here but lurk at lot and have found many answers on this forum....but I'm stumped.

I'm hoping someone can help me get my new sconces installed. The boxes are round plastic but the sconce backplate has holes that are definitely for a square box. Is there a solution? The round boxes will accept screws at roughly 3 and 9 o'clock (but I'm not sure its perfectly level.) If I attach the backplate at the only options on the box, the sconces will sit at a rather jaunty 10 degrees off vertical!! Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Alida

Comments (10)

  • 18 years ago

    Couple options. There's a mounting bracket let's call an adapter ring that you fasten to your two box's holes, then mount your fixture anywhere on the ring. Another type bracket incorporates two linear brackets, joined at a pivot-point in the center. Hard to describe in words, so I suggest a trip to HD/L; they'll know what you need.

  • 18 years ago

    Lonesparky,

    Thanks for the reply......I'm off to HD for mounting brackets!! Thanks again.

    Alida

  • 18 years ago

    What you need is called a cross bar. EVERY fixture comes with one to enable you to mount to almost ANY box.
    The holes in the fixture have NO relevance to the box itself.

  • 18 years ago

    Petey Racer,

    I agree, most fixtures do come with a cross bar. Unfortunately, these don't. The backplate to the fixture is a flat, circular shape, meant to sit tight against the drywall. There is a large hole in the center for the wires but the holes in the backplate for attaching it to the box are clearly positioned for a square box. No cross bar. And the instructions are pretty clear on proper installation. I wish manufactures would include installation requirements with product sales info so folks like me could be sure of a compatible installation before we get it home and out of the box..... but thanks for the reply. All help is most appreciated.

  • 18 years ago

    A brand name Angelo offered an extensive line of bars and box adapter plates for fixture mounting. I do not know if they still are in business by that name.

  • 17 years ago

    Does it matter if the box is plastic or metal for a fairly heavy sconce?

  • 17 years ago

    GRRR

    the reference to poor instructions...

    I installed an outdoor light fixture once that came with NO instructions whatsoever, and showed no clear way to install it. There was a non-hollow "arm" that held the thing up, and a hole in the bottom of the light itself whose size didn't match ANY standard wiring device I've ever seen.

    Code expects me to install things as the manufacturer intends but I'll be darned if I could figure out what kind of drugs the manufacturer was smoking when they engineered that thing! I ended up modifying the thing severely. Redneckville (re-)engineering at its finest.

  • 4 years ago

    How can you replace a rectangle sconce with a round sconce when the base box in wall is rectangle? It leaves gaps around the base. All the new sconces come with round bases?…

  • 4 years ago

    How about drilling some holes in the sconce backplate to match those on the box?

  • 4 years ago

    Hopefully, the OP resolved this 13 years ago...