If you could measure the width of the widest pan you plan to use inside, and then get the interior specs of the 27" oven, that might answer your question (you could even do a cardboard mock-up if you are not sure). I didn't have an issue with an oven but we did with the size of the sink...and the mock-ups were invaluable.

>But will I be sorry I didn't go with a 30" oven?

Why? Are you currently sorry you haven't had one all along?

Thanks, rubyfig. An 1-1/2" more in width will easily accommodate my largest pan. I'm only shy 1/2" or thereabouts at present.

writersblock, until I realized that new 27" ovens would gain me space, the answer to your question was, "yes." But since I've learned that new 27" ovens are larger inside, I'm not so sure. To more accurately word my question: "Will I be sorry I didn't go with a 30" oven because selections for 27" are more limited now and could be more so in the future?"

I have already unwittingly limited my appliance selections by appliance color. I started out with white (already have white 5-year old, works great DW and new fridge) but as things stand now, I could easily end up with a SS oven regardless of which size I choose. I'm trying to avoid selection limitation headaches now and in the future. Is that even possible? Perhaps I'm reaching for the moon.

If you get a new oven now (of Either width) , how likely is it that you will need yet another new one in the forseeable future?

Are you likely to do a full kitchen remodel later? If you do, are you likely to keep an older appliance and plan the kitchen around using it in any case?

I would recommend getting one of the 27" ones *if* you find that it meets your requirements interior wise, and avoid the expense of rebuilding the cabinet.
It sounds like you think it will work.

>Will I be sorry I didn't go with a 30" oven because selections for 27" are more limited now and could be more so in the future?"

Oh, I see. Yes, I can understand that concern, but personally I think energy costs are going to skyrocket in the not too distant future and you're likely to find more smaller options in the future rather than fewer.

Thanks, palimpsest, for your post.

We plan to stay in this house for another 10-15 years (been here 15 already) and don't foresee another remodel other than cosmetic touch-ups at sale time (fingers crossed). Hard to say whether we'd keep this replacement oven if we did a future remodel. If size wasn't an issue, I'd be keeping our current oven. Who knows whether that will be a factor in the future.

If we didn't do another remodel, the only reason we'd need another oven is if the new one dies. It seems that today's appliances aren't built to last as well as older models, which does worry me but I can't determine if that's glass half empty thinking or reality.

I should have added that we are a family of four with a son heading to college in the fall and the other following 2 years later. We bake but not as much as we used to (middle-age spread, you know) so mostly we use the oven for main meals, side dishes and roasted veggies (yummmm!). The boys use it for cooking frozen items, such as pizza and taquitos. We're pretty basic cooks here. And if it matters, we're getting a 30" Wolf gas cooktop. I like that I can simmer on any of the burners. I do more simmer than high heat.

Good point, writersblock! I am concerned about energy usage so I'll add this to the plus column for sticking with 27" oven.

Anyone else find it funny that the " in my subject line got changed to ' ? Can you imagine a 27 *foot* oven?!?! Yegods!

I had a 27" oven in the last house that I couldn't use some of my pans in. We moved into this house and had a different model 27" oven (similar age but higher end model and presumably better insulation). The cavity size was larger and I could use my larger sheets again. The can we get a 30" oven in a 30" cabinet that is housing a 27" oven was one of many factors that led to a gutting of the kitchen. I now have 30" double ovens in a 32 or 33" cabinet.

Do you ever have a need to put 2 13x9 pans or casseroles next to each other on the same rack? That takes a little more room and I can do that with my 30" ovens.

If a new 27" will meet your needs, I'd go with it. If you think you will need more oven in the next 10-15 years, then I'd look at other options.

The inches mark turning into feet in the subject line has been a long-time problem. Seems funny it happens and that they can't seem to fix it. For the future: If you use 2 of the single quote marks or 2 of the double, your choice, you can get it to say " (inches).

I have a 27" GE Profile convection oven, Model #PK916. I have had it for 1 year and have been very satisfied with it. So far I have not run across anything that would not fit in the oven. It has 3 racks which I seldom use, but have occasionally. I chose this oven so that I could stack it with the Advantium 120 and not have to use a trim kit. It looks good, too.

Have you looked at the Bosch ovens....I was considering one of those and I believe they come in 27" size and are supposed to have larger interiors. I had a double convection 27" Fridgaire oven that were huge inside...bigger than my new (not yet installed) GE Mono ZET1 double 30" ovens with Trivection.

We're facing a very similar decision. We currently have a 19-year old KitchenAid single 27-inch oven. We plan to replace it with an Electrolux (but possibly KA) double oven. We would go with the 30-inch without thinking about it (it's only $100 more), but putting in the larger oven means moving a wall, and increasing the time and expense of our remodel project. We're probably building a new cabinet either way, so that's not a big deal in and of itself.
While the 27-in will probably work 90% of the time, just for appearance, neighborhood value, etc, we would want to go with the 30.
Right now, I'm trying to get (very) detailed specs on the Electrolux 27. Their website gives the interior dimenesions, but not the critcal width between the rack supports. Also the full-extension glide out racks take up some additional horizontal space above another rack, and it would be good to get that measurement. Unfortunately, no one displays 27 inch ovens around here (Denver). I've sent an email to Electrolux and asked our local appliance dealer to find out. Interestingly the interior width on the 27-in oven is 3-5/8 inches smaller than the 30 inch. It's likely (but not certain), that the 3-5/8 (why not just 3?) will carry over to all of the measurements.

We are in the same situation. We have a 17 year old 27" GE oven with a microwave above it. We have lived in the house for 11 years. The last few years I have considered just replacing it with a new 27" to get a little bit more room. About 6 weeks ago we decided to remodel the kitchen (well it started with "just" granite countertops...but you know where that leads). We would need to rebuild the cabinet stack to go with a 30" oven. We have decided to do a complete kitchen remodel so that made the decision easy. We are going with a double 30" oven stack and relocate the microwave. If rebuilding the cabinet stack to accomodate the 30" is in the budget I would go that way.

Thanks, everyone!

I know going without convection will give me more room, fori, but we love using that feature so that's a no-go for us. Perhaps it will come down to finding the right 27" oven that will give me the interior room I want and the features I want. Yeah, like that's a simple request. HA! And, as you posted, hgluckman, finding 27" ovens on display is not easy!

I intended to go with GE again when we started but then got sidetracked and I can't tell you exactly why. I'll look at them again. Thanks, nancyjn, for letting me know you are happy with yours.

I looked at the Bosch ovens, Beckytheeng, and liked what I saw but I'm a little nervous since they are now owned by Thermador who has a horrible repair and service track record. CR members peg them at 24% for repairs. That's a big jump from the 5% for Kenmore, GE, and Frigidaire. I haven't been able to find that many reviews on Bosch ovens to know whether Thermador's problems carry over or not.

Aha, rhome410, so that's the secret! And doh, that trick should have occurred to me but all looked okay when I proofed my post so I didn't realize it was a problem until it was actually posted.

It's time to look at ovens again. I wish I didn't come home more confused than when I started.

I may be going oven shopping today but I'm still open to hearing more feedback, especially if you faced this situation.

We are renovating our kitchen at the moment and we could choose either 27" or 30". I wondering what to go for. I'm looking at GE™ JCK3000SFSS model as it is the cheapest I could find. Does anyone have any experience with this model?

soopergal, you're better off starting your own thread than tagging on to my very old thread. (sure surprised me to see it surface nearly 6 years later!) You should also post in the Appliance Forum.

So Lisa, what did you ultimately do and how have you felt about it after 6 years? :)

Wow, I can't believe this thread made it to the top again.

diytam, we chose a 30" oven because it's the standard size these days. But I can't give you 6yrs worth of feedback. My kitchen was finished just 3 1/2 months ago. We were in the planning and saving stage for a very long time. =)

Here's my reveal thread, 50 Shades of Gray, TKO version that I just posted on Sunday. I included brand and photos of my oven so you can see what I purchased.

So far, I like everything about my GE oven except for the oven rack. Love the gliding oven rack; I'm talking about the standard oven rack. It's PITA to move. I've fought with getting it out and then getting it back in. I've never had this kind of problem with any other oven. We plan to buy another gliding oven rack. Those are a breeze to move about the oven and slide in and out.

HTH!

Hi lisa_a, we have the same issue not sure our double wall oven or drop in cooktop will last until we have the budget to remodel. But if we replace the appliances now it would be much easier to go with the 27" wall oven over the 30". There seem to be enough 27" options (I want Kitchen Aid) but I am concerned about pans fitting and it just not being enough capacity. I want to get the convection microwave oven combo and now we have two ovens. We almost never use them at the same time now and the weird thing is even though they look the same from the outside one is smaller on inside so I almost never use it as it will not hold my pans. If you have any experiences to share now after remodeling I would appreciate it.

How old are your appliances? Are parts still available to repair them?

We weren't so lucky when our old oven died. Our wonderful repair guy tried to find the part to repair it but he said it wasn't made anymore and he couldn't find it for sale on EBay or Craigslist (I tried as well). However, I don't regret waiting 2 years after my oven died to get a 30" oven when we remodeled. We got by with the cook top, toaster oven (very nice Breville model, $250), turkey roaster and crockpot all year, and the grill during nice weather.

DH and I plan to stay in our home until we can't manage the stairs
anymore (hopefully a long time from now) so it was worth it to us to
deal with short-term inconvenience until we could get what we wanted.

How long do you plan to stay in your home? IMO, this is another factor in what you choose to do.

If your appliances are too old to be repaired when they die and you have your heart set on a 30" wall oven, check Craigslist
and EBay to see if you can find a decent used 27" oven to tide you over until you can
afford to remodel and get a 30" oven.

I advise against a MW/oven combo, as do most GWers. If one appliance dies, you have to replace the whole unit, not just the the oven or MW. Combos are cheaper initially but they could prove more costly in the long run.

btw, a built-in MW oven will always have the bigger-on-the-outside-but-smaller-on-the-inside look. It's not meant to take the place of a double oven (2 full size, regular ovens). It's a MW with an additional cook function.

HTH!

Just built a new house and didn't realize I bought the 24" double wall ovens and it is too late. I am now purchasing a 30" single wall oven to install under my cooktop. Now I will have smaller ovens for casserole size dishes and my larger oven for sheet cakes and large roll pans. Go big, you won't be sorry!