Is the window location set in stone? Any chance of putting the stove on the angled wall and scooting the sink toward the door? It'd put the stove a couple steps closer to the fridge and a straight shot, instead of maneuvering around the island.

Another thought: If the range was on the angle, the fridge could go where the range is and you could add another pantry section.

Thoughts about having the sink in the island? (I wouldn't prefer it, so don't be shy about it if you're against it.) Where will your dishes be stored?

If you put the stove on the angle and flipped the sink and DW you'd get back adequate prep space on either side of the cooktop. I think that is what rhome was referring to now that I think about it! I almost want to clip the corner of the island that faces the slant on the perimeter to mimic the shape but you'd lose storage. Do you have a separate dining area?

Could you put the fridge on the angled section next to the range? It definitely is too far from the stove as shown here.

Agree with putting fridge where range is, range at the angle and sink scooted down just a bit.

Without measures it's hard to know if that will work. Can you end up with dedicated 2 feet either side of sink and 1 foot either side of range? That will do fine with the large island right there for all your prep.

Window not over the sink wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. I'd offset the faucet, incorporate a drainboard or runnels, and do whatever else would treat the sink/DW as a single element. And center THAT.

Maybe insert drop zone/ message center into that now available spot between the pantries: phone, file drawers, chargers, clutter catcher, etc.

I think you do need some uppers for sure - lots of them. It's not too difficult to remove cabinets later on if you don't need them, but it's difficult to add them and have things look nice. You can never have too much storage.

I agree with the others about putting the range on the angle. I also think it would be good to have the fridge close to the deck for cold drinks, etc. ;)

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Is the room 18' across the window wall? In that case you'll have approx. 14' between he two appliances with that layout.

My kitchen is 15' across the window wall.The fridge is recessed, so there's 12' between the two appliances. It's not that big of a deal. If I'm prepping veggies or preparing to cook, I just carry all the stuff over to the sink area. I don't even notice it; I adapted the first time I cooked.
Fridge wall:

I don't think it's too far. Mine is a similar distance and it's fine.

Both your fridge and stove are a reasonable distance from the sink, which is the more important issue in my opinion. The sequence of use is worth thinking about. You'll take things from the fridge and pantry, place them on the island as a landing area, move veggies to sink to wash and prep, and then take things to the range to cook.

I like your layout better than any of the suggested changes, simply because it's the most workable. The fridge is accessible from both your work zone and the living area, and those paths won't need to cross. You have a generous amount of prep space, too. I'd include uppers because, although I like the look of kitchens with no uppers, I couldn't stand to lose all that storage space. I would at least have to have shelves.

Depends on how you cook but I'd prefer to have the sink close to the fridge so don't mind your distances and DEFINITELY would want the sink near the range - so would not like sailorman's layout. I have 5 feet between sink and stove and a straight shot of counter (prep space) between and it is almost too much - especially when cleaning the stove. (I'm not complaining about the prep space, don't get me wrong ... esp. since prep space is what we craved in our before model). Don't want to have to walk clear across fridge from stove to sink.

That said, I like rhome's idea of bringing the stove closer to the sink in the diagonal wall in your layout especially because it will let you vent the stove out the house. That's a good thing.

If your pantries are big enough you may very well be able to get away without any uppers. And with some open shelving you may not even feel too much of a pinch. Check out Pirula's and Rococogurl's kitchens in the Finished Kitchens Blog for a couple of instances showing such an implementation. There are others but I don't recall them now.

I don't think it's too far, either. And you don't want to bring the refrig into the work zone if your house is anything like mine where the gazers & grazers get underfoot.

Working from sailormann's layout:

-swapped the fridge and pantry
-added a prep sink to island

This results in a nice prep area on the island that is convenient to a prep sink, fridge, pantry and range. There's easy access to the fridge from the livingroom for snackers or a quick drink. The space under the window could be used as a baking center. The main sink and DW are located away from the prep area so dishes can be done while someone else is cooking. The DW location also has plenty of dish storage and is easy access for table setting.

Thanks everyone. It's so good to hear objective opinions and to read so many great suggestions. The idea of putting the stove in the angled corner is good, but agree that it would be better to angle cut the island to match - otherwise there will be a very pointy corner behind the cook, right? The problem with the fridge is that it isn't really counter depth and in the original location we can sink it back so it looks built-in. But there are some good points about traffic flow and ease of access too. I guess there is no "right" answer in design, is there? We need to figure out which of these great ideas will work best for us. I don't know if this will change anyones thoughts, but here's a picture of that angled corner and the proximity to the window. You can see a beam from the roof and how the layout exists at the moment, and why uppers pose a challenge unless we change the window location (rather not)

I like the idea of your builtin look for the fridge. Here is my original idea...with a hutch to take place of uppers for more at-hand storage in the work area.

Yeah I, too, like the idea of the tall storage sitting in its own wall and the separate working part of the kitchen being counter based. Rhome's hutch concept is a really good one if you feel that extra storage would be useful. You could then implement it with an upper cab all the way down to counter OR as a stand-alone unit.

And clipping the island to reflect the edge would be a good idea in your kitchen no matter what, in my opinion. That's a nice nod to symmetry as well as to continuity as it shows that your island design is custom designed to your kitchen (ok, that may not make any sense but I like the uniqueness).

My sink and range are on an angle as in Rhome's drawing above. Spacing in the drawing looks about the same or more. I have a 24 inch cabinet next to the range separating the two. Works well. (I do 90% of my prep at the island. No prep sink.)

It is less than the by-the-book ideal spacing. But I actually like the compactness and the sink being so near.

Rhome, I was just reading some other posts and I came across a drawing you did for Sylace on Wednesday. Did you notice how similar my plans are to Sylace's? It was very helpful to see what you designed in the 3D drafting program in that case. You helped two people at once, so your work is much appreciated.

Here is a link that might be useful: other post