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hidden flip-out electrical outlet meet code for around sink-wall?

15 years ago

Would anyone know if TRY_HARD's hidden flip-out electrical outlets (see pictures below) would meet code for around the sink/perimeter wall area (vs. an island)?

I'm planning a 8' wall of windows down to the countertop and I don't want ?sprockets?, and I don't know where to put the electrical outlets w/in 2ft of the sink. I don't have space between the windows.

thanks for any help,

Amanda

Try_Hard: "This is a hidden electrical outlet that will be on the front of the island. The electric hasn't been installed yet but you can see that you tilt out the cover to access it. This is so that I can use electric at the left end of the island if I need to. Since it won't be used often, I went with the hidden tilt out. There is also electric at the right end of the island."

Comments (6)

  • 15 years ago

    Ask your AHJ.

  • 15 years ago

    brickeyee is correct; ultimately the AHJ has final say no matter what the code says or doesn't say.

    The 2008 code provides the under-counter-top exception for islands and peninsulas because they often do not have walls or hanging cabinets to mount receptacles into. Window walls have been ignored by the code, exception wise, so without a Mockett or similar scheme you may find (as some AHJs on Mike Holt's Forum have asserted) that the AHJ will say that it is your responsibility to design the wall so that outlets can be installed. The level of strictness varies with political jurisdiction. The AHJ might be more lenient if the window was pre-existing.

    And no, I don't know why the NFPA doesn't discourage outlets close to sinks.

    kas

  • 15 years ago

    If your inspector gives you a hard time, you might be able to use one like this. I have two near my sink. My counters are 30" deep so they're back from the main work area. They are GFCI and UL, so they meet the new code for my rigorous inspector. They are made by Lew Electric.

  • 15 years ago

    Yes, I'll definitely check w/ my town's code.
    Just planning ahead...

    Another idea, based on histokitch's kitchen sill (see picture below):
    - putting sillite on the window sill:
    See how the window sill is almost flushed w/ the countertop? I could put the sillite there, yes?

    I like to have a flat countertop w/out any edges to go around. I'm getting stainless steel countertop integrated with a stainless sink, so it's just 1 piece w/ no edges (oooh, I couldn't stand my drop-in sink in my previous home, couldn't get the edges/rim clean enough).

    LOVE your kitchen! (I'm also having 30" countertops.)

    Sillite:

    Kinda like jsweenc's kitchen, except of standing vertical, the outlets would be laying down flat.
    Scroll 2/3 down to see the picture (after the 2 pictures of the island sillites) (I can't post the picture for some reason.)

    Here is a link that might be useful: jsweenc's kitchen w/ sillites

  • 15 years ago

    are these outlets rated to be in the wall. because i have a coustomer that doen't want to see any products and these would work

  • 15 years ago

    Hi everyone,
    I have a similar situation where I have installed a wall of windows and the local electrical inspector wants outlets installed that can service this area. I (like the picture above), installed the windows right to the counter surface, but also plan to set the window sill (solid surface material) on top of the couneter like the picture in the posting above. The question I have is can I install sillite recepts to comply, as I do not believe you are supposed to have upward facing recepts in the kitchen "work surface". Since this is not technically the work surface, does it comply with the NEC? I would install 3 of them on 2 separate 20A GFCI circuits that have many other recepts on these curcuits. I would prefer this option over the Lew flip up options as I do not want something else to have to clean around on my granite countertop.

    Thanks for yor guidance!
    Kent