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Is my island the correct width? I don't think it is.

11 years ago

The trim carpenters have left and things are looking nice.

HOWEVER, please tell me if there is something wrong with my island. It should be 3 feet wide as the plan shows it at 3/4 inch wide and 1/4 inch = 1 foot. I haven't measured the island itself, but in eyeballing it, it is not 3 feet wide. It looks like it's about 2 feet wide. I know there is overhang with the countertops but it's not that much, right?

I don't know if the cook top drawing in the plan was the exact dimensions, but I looked up the dimensions of our actual cooktop and it shows to be 21-1/2 inches in depth. You can see the cut out at the end of the island that is near the window for the cooktop and its about the entire width of the island.

What do I do? I really don't think it's correct. I am betting the trim carpenters have already moved onto their next home. If it's wrong, I sure as heck not paying for them to rebuild it and if they did, it would probably delay other things that need to happen with the house. The painters are supposed to come in and start prepping this week. I haven't contacted my builder about this yet. This is yet ANOTHER thing that me, the chick who has never done this before has noticed after the fact.

This post was edited by aimless07 on Sun, Jan 25, 15 at 10:50

Comments (19)

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Your island top will be 36" or so, the cabinets will be 24" or so. This allows the countertop to overhang the cabinets so that you can sit at it.

  • 11 years ago

    I may be wrong but this looks right to me. The island cabinetry is 24" deep (standard), the front overhang will be 1" and the seating area of the counter on the island will be roughly 11". That creates a 36" island. Don't stress! :)

  • 11 years ago

    I don't know much about this stuff either but judging from the plan and the line going across beyond the cooktop I would assume that means it is another material, in your case, the counter overhang. I think it would be necessary to include the overhang on plans since it will take up space in the area. Lol, that's my two cents! Maybe someone who actually knows about this stuff will chime in. ;)

  • 11 years ago

    that is how our island is with seating and overhang. it is two foot wide cabinets but with the granite overhang there will be a foot with no cabinets under it.....still making it 3 feet wide.

    with your plans and assuming 1/4" equaling a foot....you have 2 feet of cabs and 1 with counter overhang.

  • 11 years ago

    This is how mine is too. Don't stress! The lower cabinets are only wider if you have storage on the bar side. Here's a pic of mine. Not a great angle because there's a set of double ovens across from it so I can't back up very far. But it shows it works. I have 13" overhang. Look closely on the floor - there's a yardstick showing the cabinets are 24" wide.

    I wish the top was a few inches wider when I'm baking and prepping at it with people sitting on the other side. I use mine as a buffet also, and it gets a bit cramped if we have a lot of people over. It looks like you have the room to add a couple more inches if your counter top isn't already cut.

    Your corbels (? The things the overhang sits on) are really pretty!

    This post was edited by amykatsy on Sun, Jan 25, 15 at 11:20

  • 11 years ago

    It appears to be built as drawn: base at 24" and top will be 36" ish.

  • 11 years ago

    Just be happy your contractors aren't scaling the drawings and eyeballing the work. Buy a measuring tape and carry it with you on the site.

    But it is best to check the work when the contractors aren't there and then later ask them to check it for you instead of pointing out an error you have found. Don't get caught putting a tape on everything. That's not your responsibility and you don't want anyone to be able to say you share blame because you failed to check something.

  • 11 years ago

    From the drawing, it looks to be correct. From you photo onsite, it looks like you could have made it at last 3 feet of cabinet storage (24 on the cooktop side and 12 on the overhang side) and a foot of overhang for seating. We had that in a prior island and that 12 inches of cabinet was great. Maybe it isn't too late ..........

    But, from the plans, it seems correct as it is now.

  • 11 years ago

    We are not having overhang for seating on the long side of the island which was why I was concerned. The seating will be on the end cap where the corbels are and it will be a large and round piece of granite.

    Does that make any difference? I really appreciate the quick responses. I am so ready for all of this to be over!

  • 11 years ago

    That is not clear from your plans. In fact, I'd say your plans imply to me that there is an overhang along the long side of the island and a single wide 24" base cabinet. The reason being the base cabinet that contains the range is drawn with a double line around its perimeter. I would infer the double line border area shown is base cabinet and the single line area is the extent of the countertop. You should check with your architect.

    IMO it would be a little odd to have a base cabinet there since it'd have to have a way to tie into the circular area at the end. 11" or so is also not very deep for a base cabinet. The shallowest base cabinet we have on our island on the back side of the range is about 14" which is enough to fit a variety of uncommonly used small appliances.

  • 11 years ago

    It's done as shown on the plans. However, if you have made changes that involve a circular seating area, the granite will need farmore support for that than the two corbels shown. Do you have updated kitchen plans as well as udated cabinet rawings?

  • 11 years ago

    You need to explain what the line a foot away from the island edge represents.

    Kitchen cabinets and counters are not built from plan drawings; they are built from the cabinet maker's shop drawings which are normally submitted to the architect, designer and owner for approval for obvious reasons. Show us those drawings so we can understand what was intended.

  • 11 years ago

    So -- were you expecting something like this? If so, there was a pretty big support post under our rounded part.

  • 11 years ago

    We are not having overhang for seating on the long side of the island which was why I was concerned. The seating will be on the end cap where the corbels are and it will be a large and round piece of granite.

    Does that make any difference? I really appreciate the quick responses. I am so ready for all of this to be over!

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Your plan shows the counter overhanging the back of the cabinets.

    So if they built what's planned. You are going to have overhang on the long side (back) of the island.

  • 11 years ago

    Your island countertop will look better at the 3' depth. 2' would be visually very narrow for the island length and give a cheaper appearance to the whole kitchen, so don't worry about it and stick with the planned 3'. Nightowl's picture above is also deeper than 2' as there look to be cabinets on both sides of the island.

  • 11 years ago

    You need plate steel for such a large round overhang. Those corbels don't come close enough to the edge to give support. The counter could crack with the additional weight of a person leaning on it. Also, the overhang behind the cabinets will need support as well. The whole thing is done improperly re a safety aspect.

  • 11 years ago

    If you want additional storage on the back of the island (instead of seating) it seems to me your cabinet maker or carpenter could easily add some open shelving (cookbook shelves?) at the back...but it would be easiest to add now before the countertop goes on. Another nice option would be glassfront cabs, 12" deep and 36" high, for storage of nice dishes and serveware.

    I think it will look better without a 12" overhang if no seating is planned there. So if you want a 3' deep island without seating, plan to add more cabinetry now.

    BUT--this is going to not jive with how the round part is added, looks like the round part is set to go on top of only 24" deep cabinetry. So if you add another 12" of cabinetry, your round part is likely going to be too small for the amount of seating you want.

    ALSO - I question why there are only corbels under the round part. This might mean they have not planned a countertop overhang at all on the rest of the island. Which means you might end up with only 25.5" of countertop which would NOT be as your plans indicate.

    Agree you're going to need more support for the round part.

    Finally, if all is set and done and unfixable, maybe get some narrow saddle stools to stash under the overhang? That will make it look intentional.

    {{gwi:2133115}}

    This post was edited by robotropolis on Mon, Jan 26, 15 at 9:17

  • 11 years ago

    after cabinets were measure and drawn (on the floor) our gc measured and allowed for "handicap" space, penciled in an area and said "this is what we have to work with" what would you like (island wise) in about 30 minutes we had roughdrawn plan for the island which is almost double the width of the island in the plan
    i would hope your contractor would do something of that sort
    of course we already had plumbing and electrical coming through the floor, so we had to work within those constrictions also